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10th Anniversary of the "GOUT" dvd release — Page 2

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TV’s Frink said:

I’ve said this elsewhere, but with njvc’s custom Blu-ray project featuring Despecialized, I’m not sure I care about an official original release any more. I don’t see how it could compete.

There’s the principle.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Fang Zei said:

Wasn’t it reported somewhere back around December that Disney had in fact requested a copy of the LoC’s original '77 print of the film?

As I recall, the prevailing theory was that they could very well be using it as reference for what the actual content of the initial theatrical release actually was.

Yes, I posted that here. The colorist who posts on the Steve Hoffman Forums said that. I believe him more than most other people regarding Star Wars information. It’s also possible that they just wanted to consolidate files of all of their existing material, or something. It’s a good sign, but it’s not a guarantee.

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Fang Zei said:

Thinking back on it now, would it really have cost all that much money in 2006 (compared to your average dvd of just about any other film) to simply do a new telecine of the same '85 IP elements that were used for the '93 laserdiscs?

I know Lucasfilm’s form response letter said “existing prints are in poor condition,” but come on.

Are you gonna tell me they were in worse shape than whatever film element was used for the examples I listed in my long-ass post like Dune or The Thing or Blade Runner?

George’s whole thing was “don’t spend a single cent of my money remastering it,” but was it really worth the backlash?

I know, I know, “he was surrounded by yes men.” It’s still hard to comprehend.

I think the claim was the prints that had not been restored and re-edited for the special edition were in poor condition and either had faded worse than their 1993 scan or would have required all new color correction and mastering if they didn’t use the existing THX mastered final output.
It’s still lazy. I’m still surprised they never made a film to video transfer of the restored print in 1995 before the alterations were made, as some kind of backup. The oot footage included on the 1997 making of special looks better than the actual gout. (but it’s pan & scan)

Take back the trilogy. Execute Order '77

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Knightmessenger said:

Fang Zei said:

Thinking back on it now, would it really have cost all that much money in 2006 (compared to your average dvd of just about any other film) to simply do a new telecine of the same '85 IP elements that were used for the '93 laserdiscs?

I know Lucasfilm’s form response letter said “existing prints are in poor condition,” but come on.

Are you gonna tell me they were in worse shape than whatever film element was used for the examples I listed in my long-ass post like Dune or The Thing or Blade Runner?

George’s whole thing was “don’t spend a single cent of my money remastering it,” but was it really worth the backlash?

I know, I know, “he was surrounded by yes men.” It’s still hard to comprehend.

I think the claim was the prints that had not been restored and re-edited for the special edition were in poor condition and either had faded worse than their 1993 scan or would have required all new color correction and mastering if they didn’t use the existing THX mastered final output.
It’s still lazy. I’m still surprised they never made a film to video transfer of the restored print in 1995 before the alterations were made, as some kind of backup. The oot footage included on the 1997 making of special looks better than the actual gout. (but it’s pan & scan)

Well they never fully restored it in 1997. Many of the elements were too far gone for a standard photochemical restoration to save, which is why a lot of the digital composites happened (although they could have used elements from inter-positives or the separation masters). They had to go back to the individual pre-composite plates and rebuild them in the computer. Then they removed the original degraded shots and replaced them with the re-comps.