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Yeah it would be ideal to have a full print that they struck to make these, assuming that is actually what they did.
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Yeah it would be ideal to have a full print that they struck to make these, assuming that is actually what they did.
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(I downloaded the cd from usenet thanks to the tip from ThatArtGuy in the newsgroups thread)
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Edit: In fact reel 2 is currently up for sale.
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
If you guys just had (or could get or borrow for a short time) a fairly good set of 16mm prints that this fellow from the thread below has offered to scan, then you wouldn't have to worry about hunting for any more reels. And all source problems would be over (lots of clean up to do, but a full high res source would be secure, once and for all).
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=5853&STARTPAGE=10
If you guys just had (or could get or borrow for a short time) a fairly good set of 16mm prints that this fellow from the thread below has offered to scan, then you wouldn't have to worry about hunting for any more reels. And all source problems would be over (lots of clean up to do, but a full high res source would be secure, once and for all).
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=5853&STARTPAGE=10
I think he can only take 400ft reels and not many people would be happy having their 1200ft or larger reels cut up.
If anyone can find a 16mm print that is in pristine condition and has more detail than the DVDs let us know, I have only seen substandard prints of SW that wouldn't scan well.
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
I'll check which shot we are using and get back to you, but there are only 270 odd lines so the resolution of backround areas is also a problem on our captures.
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That image has been resized which will decrease detail and looks a little too soft. What did you use to capture the frame?
VideoLan. But I cropped in Iview and added the red circle in paint. So the picture is probably softer than what's on the dvd.
I'll check which shot we are using and get back to you, but there are only 270 odd lines so the resolution of backround areas is also a problem on our captures.
VideoLan. But I cropped in Iview and added the red circle in paint. So the picture is probably softer than what's on the dvd.
I'll check which shot we are using and get back to you, but there are only 270 odd lines so the resolution of backround areas is also a problem on our captures.
Thanks. I noticed the Editdroid version has slightly more detail than the PAL GOUT so that made me wonder.
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When one considers that this would put the entire unaltered trilogy, in not just DVD res, but even full 1920x1080p on HD optical disks and then some, in the hands of fans for full preservation/restoration efforts, it's worth an awful lot to make it happen. The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.
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Originally posted by: Laserman I think he can only take 400ft reels and not many people would be happy having their 1200ft or larger reels cut up.
The 400ft limitation was for super-8. I'll have to check on the limit for 16mm, but it's gotta be more than that...
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For features at home, nobody would want to have to change 12 reels for 120mins of movie unless they really had to.
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My 16mm WorkPrinter has a maximum capacity of 2000 ft.
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
Looked at that image in photoshop, the height of that section of stripes is only 18 pixels, 5.5 percent of the height of that image. Nothing short of an HD source is going to show that kind of detail.
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Originally posted by: tweaker
Looked at that image in photoshop, the height of that section of stripes is only 18 pixels, 5.5 percent of the height of that image. Nothing short of an HD source is going to show that kind of detail.
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
The GOUT is missing some detail as we can see in this shot. Can you see seperate black stripes on R2 in this shot in the X0 capture?
Looked at that image in photoshop, the height of that section of stripes is only 18 pixels, 5.5 percent of the height of that image. Nothing short of an HD source is going to show that kind of detail.
PAL GOUT
PAL 2004 DVD Resized to match PAL GOUT
Or:
PAL GOUT
NTSC EditDroid
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
You mean you can handle up to 2,000ft. long reels of 16mm film at a time for scanning? Or is a WorkPrinter something else?
You mean you can handle up to 2,000ft. long reels of 16mm film at a time for scanning? Or is a WorkPrinter something else?
http://www.moviestuff.tv/wp_16.html
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
Laserman: So, if you took this 2,000ft capacity 16mm WorkPrinter that Puggo has and pointed a 1080i video camera (are non-professional video cameras at full 1920x1080i?) at the film frames from each Star Wars 16mm reel, then you'd have a full HD capture of the trilogy ready to be viewed at the films' normal speed on a HD optical disk (after proper compression to fit), right? How would the quality of the capture using this method compare to using a film scanner (I'm assuming Puggo's 400ft. 16mm film scanner can do about 2k resolution)?
Laserman: So, if you took this 2,000ft capacity 16mm WorkPrinter that Puggo has and pointed a 1080i video camera (are non-professional video cameras at full 1920x1080i?) at the film frames from each Star Wars 16mm reel, then you'd have a full HD capture of the trilogy ready to be viewed at the films' normal speed on a HD optical disk (after proper compression to fit), right? How would the quality of the capture using this method compare to using a film scanner (I'm assuming Puggo's 400ft. 16mm film scanner can do about 2k resolution)?
Now *I* am getting confused
My (Puggo's) 16mm WorkPrinter is 2000ft, not 400ft. Neither one is a film scanner. The 400ft WorkPrinter is the 8mm one. In theory, yes I believe you could point a 1080i video camera at it, although I'm not sure what software you'd use to capture the higher resolution frames and assemble them into a video. Cinecap does that for standard DV, but I'm not sure if something comparable for HD has been written that isn't embedded in a super-high-end wetgate system. Maybe Roger at moviestuff can answer that one.A more important point is whether the optics in the WorkPrinter would justify an HD encoding. As good as the WorkPrinter is, it has its limitations... shining a light on the film exposes grain and scratches that are not so prominent on a rank transfer. I'm skeptical that an HD capture on a WorkPrinter would look any better than a standard transfer.
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