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A DVD-5 of ESB is finished.  Apart from conversion to anamorphic widescreen and light sharpening, there has been no filtering.  PM me if you are interested.  ROTJ will be next, and then SW.

At some point, I hope that there will be filtered second versions based on the work g-force has already done for SW.  As I have never worked with laserdisc material before, I will have to learn almost everything from scratch.  Msycamore and g-force have already said that they will help.

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^That's great news Chew!



It's been my experience that RAR softwares can be stupid about time zones.
If you're bothered by such things, or anal-retentive as I am
then you should pretend you're in Greenwich when you unpack the RARs.
There's a snapshot from my imaginary holiday in Paris (UTC).

File sizes are st00pid too. Add 8GiB to what's shown

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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I really need to figure out why my DVD-ROM drive isn't writing DVDs... =|

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http://i40.tinypic.com/2lwro6e.gif
nnedi2()

Bob() is out -- replaced with needi2(). Beta script is posted, bug reports welcome.
A few issues are fixed since the Dark-Sega version, and a few still remain.

6458 & 124905
Each of those film frames comprise two video fields; however, the top and bottom fields aren't aligned. They look bad.
Perhaps it's better to discard one field, and let nnedi2() to fill in the blanks.
To try it, simply replace the comment character <#> with a dot.

Script contains 24 instances of nnedi2(). Some are enabled by default, some disabled -- subject to my whim.
Any of them could be turned ON/OFF the same way. Replace <#> with <.> or vice-versa.


We've still got 48 frames repeated as Threepio gets in the bath.
This needs to be fixed, and I'd like your help to determine exactly where in the source video that the reel change occurs.
It's approximately 35226\35227 give or take a field or three. What do you think?

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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There will be a delay with the ROTJ DVD because I forgot about the subs. Doh! 

I take it that the IVTC script for ROTJ synchronizes it to the NTSC GOUT, rather than the PAL GOUT, because that is what the audio mixes are synchronized to.  I'll have to ask msycamore about the subs.

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At least, you'll not need to worry about the framecounts if you're going to use my Jedi sub script as a base, they should be the same for NTSC and PAL, the difference between them appear later in the film.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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My 'published' script conforms to PAL GOUT.
If you want the NTSC edit, then hacking the script should be trivial:

Change
c68666 = trim(cBlackFilm, 0,-6) # last_frame=68671
to
c68666 = trim(cBlackFilm, 0,-4)

And change
c141781 = trim(cBlackFilm, 0,-1) # last_frame=141781
to
c141781 = trim(cBlackFilm, 0,-2)

Viola! [That's French for violin I think <?> ]
Maybe add more black frames to the end...


You'll void the warranty doing this ;)

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Viola! :)

I skimmed through Star Wars and Empire recently and these captures are real beauties, by far the best captures I have seen of SW-Laserdiscs. Sharp with fantastic detail, you can even see the dotpattern on Vader's communication screen in Empire that was almost impossible to make out on many other transfers, dotcrawl is almost entirely eliminated, the rainbowing seen is unfortunately a part of these transfers I'm afraid and not something introduced in the captures, the power of the X9 made a big difference, well done Grinder and Arnie.d! thanks for sharing these gems.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Um, it's Voilà, which is French for "there you go" or "there he/she is" when you add le or la before the word.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Hey Chewtobacca, just wanna say thanks again for sharing your dvd5 version, downloaded last nite, have scanned thru a few scenes and it looks great. Will be throwing it onto a disc and watching properly very soon.

 

I agree with msycamore, even looking at the pictures on the first page cant believe how much shadow detail there is in the interior of the sand crawler!

Really looking forward to seeing the other two.

Cheers

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Thank you for making your conversion of ESB available Chewtobacca, I was impressed at how well this holds up when I played clips through a 23" monitor. Although the colours are not quite as rich as the Dark/Sega version available on newsgroup, this is more appealing because it doesn't have the Japanese subtitles/restrictively awkward framing, but more crucially manages to keep the textural quality of the original celluloid somewhat intact, which immediately makes it more immersive than the Dark/Sega which tends towards looking like a "TV" version. I'm looking forward to watching the whole thing - great stuff!!   
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I noticed a few places in the Empire DVD where the screen goes black for a second. 

I seem to recall reading at some point that the JSC's had some frames missing.  Can I assume that these black spaces are there to keep the sound mix in sync?

"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies.  Please make more Star Wars movies."

-The Internet

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Darth Bizarro said: Can I assume that these black spaces are there to keep the sound mix in sync?

Yes.

 

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After looking at these captures again in more detail, I must say that I'm in love. One of the problems I had with ANH in this set before was the colors or the lack of it, that issue are now gone when I see how the actual LD look, I think I'll never go back to my Technidisc LD pressing ever again.

Not to say that it doesn't have its problems, but I think most of it can be corrected and fixed. Chewtobacca, maybe you could take use of this filter: http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/chromashift.html to correct some of the bad color registration.

Just an example with chromashift applied, unfiltered on top.

Empire doesn't have this problem thankfully.  But it does, not as awfully much though. ;)

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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That is a tiny bit of an improvement, but I think I still prefer the Technidisc.

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Asaki said:

That is a tiny bit of an improvement, but I think I still prefer the Technidisc.

Well, I like the Technidisc LD myself for various reasons but this capture is so damn good that if you fix the few problems it have and do some color correction you will have something really beautiful. Forget the colors for a moment, just take a look at how this capture compares to the GOUT and my Technidisc capture in clarity and detail.

And most importantly, there's no damn DVNR. :) You have some ugly damage throughout one reel though, and there is unfortunately some chroma smear present, but overall this one wins IMO.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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msycamore said:Chewtobacca, maybe you could take use of this filter: http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/chromashift.html to correct some of the bad color registration.

Thanks, I'll have a look.  My plan was to release unfiltered versions first and see what people think, and later release improved filtered versions that take into account what people who like these old transfers want to see.  For Star Wars, I'm really keen to make a hybrid with the Technidisc.  At the moment, I'm still trying to find time to work on the positioning of the subs for ROTJ.

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To make a hybrid is not a bad idea but I'm doubtful it's really going to work, the Technidisc transfer is quite soft looking compared to the JSC, and I'm unfortunately not able to make a capture to match this quality with my gears, the transitions between them would be too jarring. I'm definitely not against it but maybe Mallwalker is able to provide a much better capture than me?

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Chewtobacca said:

msycamore said:Chewtobacca, maybe you could take use of this filter: http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/chromashift.html to correct some of the bad color registration.

Thanks, I'll have a look.  My plan was to release unfiltered versions first and see what people think, and later release improved filtered versions that take into account what people who like these old transfers want to see.  For Star Wars, I'm really keen to make a hybrid with the Technidisc.  At the moment, I'm still trying to find time to work on the positioning of the subs for ROTJ.

Yeah I'm up for an unfiltered version first.

Thanks again for sharing chaps.

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msycamore said:

Forget the colors for a moment, just take a look at how this capture compares to the GOUT and my Technidisc capture in clarity and detail.

Yeah, but as I said before, the sharpness in the SWE feels very artificial to me.

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Asaki said:

Yeah, but as I said before, the sharpness in the SWE feels very artificial to me.

I guess you mean the JSC? the Technidisc pressing was a SWE release.

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Yeah, I meant JSC.

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Well, this version of ESB sure is interesting. I'm sure Puggo and the 35mm will beat the pants off of it, but it's neat to watch.

Sure is a lot of pink in the first reel or so.

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Hey Chewie any progress on SW and ROTJ?

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msycamore said:

Asaki said:

Yeah, but as I said before, the sharpness in the SWE feels very artificial to me.

I guess you mean the JSC? the Technidisc pressing was a SWE release.

Asaki said:

Yeah, I meant JSC.

The transfers both have their strength and weakness but what I meant was that there's simply no comparison between my murky capture and Arnie.d's, and I think Chew can make something really nice out of this. You can expect at least a contrast and gamma corrected version of my Technidisc capture, the lousy DVD recorder I used, captured it much too dark, making no justice to how the real LD look.

A preservation project of the original films without DVNR-artifacts should always be encouraged IMO, I would in fact be interested in these even if the trilogy was beautifully restored tomorrow, but that's me.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com