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So for a frame based (non-interlaced) source you would need to modify the function by replacing:

fields=source.SeparateFields() # separate by fields
super = fields.MSuper()

with:

super=source.MSuper()

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Moth3r said:

So for a frame based (non-interlaced) source you would need to modify the function by replacing:

fields=source.SeparateFields() # separate by fields
super = fields.MSuper()

with:

super=source.MSuper()

Then I guess "weave()" can also be removed?

 

I'll give it a try Ridgeshark and let you know the results.

 

Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Msuper is part of what filter?

Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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It's a function in MVTools v2.  Found as a part of Fizick's amazing filter collection http://avisynth.org.ru/fizick.html  Or the direct link here for the documentation and download link -  http://avisynth.org.ru/mvtools/mvtools2.html  Sorry I failed to mention before that I was using v2 - MSuper and probably many other features are absent in v1.

There are lots of great examples on there - it's where I got the function MDegrain2i2 and there are other examples of functions made specifically for progressive (non-interlaced) video.  Also - I haven't tried using MVDegrain to remove rainbowing on progressive video.  I imagine it would help if all you have is a progressive source, but I'm certain that filtering the chroma on the interlaced frames before performing the IVTC would achieve better results in removing the rainbowing.

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This project is looking great!

I love your previous effort with this LD. Any updates?

Good luck and keep up the good work.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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So is this project dead? I am starting to regret canceling and deleting all the files from my PC,so Arnie are you still doing this? I have only about 2 or so more weeks left on my Blu-ray projects and they are done,I might have to start this bad boy up again if you are quitting it,so please let me know.

Thanks

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Gee Arnie.d, c'mon already! Seven whole weeks have passed since you tried the Msuper filter. This project should have been finished and released at least six weeks ago. What have you been doing all this time? Got H1M1 swine flu ? Hope you haven't been assassinated because that would really cramp my style....

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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yes, the infamous "H1M1" flu virus....

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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How to ask if a project is still alive, Part 1:

dark_jedi said:

So is this project dead? I am starting to regret canceling and deleting all the files from my PC,so Arnie are you still doing this? I have only about 2 or so more weeks left on my Blu-ray projects and they are done,I might have to start this bad boy up again if you are quitting it,so please let me know.

Thanks

How to ask if a project is still alive, Part 2:

ThrowgnCpr said:

I really hope its not dead. 

 

fingers crossed...

How to whine:

Darth Mallwalker said:

Gee Arnie.d, c'mon already! Seven whole weeks have passed since you tried the Msuper filter. This project should have been finished and released at least six weeks ago. What have you been doing all this time? Got H1M1 swine flu ? Hope you haven't been assassinated because that would really cramp my style....

If this was a joke, I withdraw my post.  But I don't think it was.

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Arnie, has put alot of time and money into it. I am very sure it is not dead.

 

  Troy

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Well this project has more of a chance of being finished than that vapor-ware project.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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well now the secret's out, vbangle, you see I never read the news, just listen on TV while cooking supper


I fully support this project and look forward to the results
I have the V8 disc to keep me occupied while Arne fries the bigger fish
(and recently got my own JSC)


I can't comprehend how anyone would presume this project dead.
Seven weeks is a moment in time...

And Arnie.d is nowhere near M.I.A.
He popped up in the GOUT image stabilization thread just days ago

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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It's the X0 syndrome. People have become paranoid because they're afraid projects like these may go months (or years) without update.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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I've just been really busy with work. But it will be finished. For Star Wars everything is ready to be rendered and encoded.

Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Arnie.d said:

No, I didn't test the comb filters because of limited time and because the X9 owner had a lot of experience and said the composite out was much better for image quality.

I'm also an X9 owner, and while the results using the composite output might look better at first glance in some circumstances, I don't recommend using it.


The X9, like most other players with both composite & S-Video output, does not have direct composite (also called pure composite) output.  This means that instead of the signal path being disc->TBC->output, it's disc->TBC->3DYC->recombined signal-> output.  So the composite signal is just the S-Video signal recombined back into composite.


I've comfirmed this on my own setup (you can tell what recombined composite looks like after you see it enough times on different LD players), and I believe it has been confirmed on the repair manual of the X9 as well.  You can talk to someone like Kurtis Bahr for more information, he's repaired and worked on a lot of players including the X9.  I believe his contact info can be found in a past post on alt.video.laserdisc.


If you absolutely need to use composite, you should use a players with direct composite like the Pioneer Elite CLD-99 (CLD-HF9G in Japan) or the X0 (BNC terminal output only).

Sorry I didn't notice this thread earlier, I don't visit this forum much.

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That is why the X-0 team chose the player because it had direct access to the composite signal.

Didn't they mod the player for RGB output?

Let arnie do what he wants to do, i think he is capturing the japan special collection and not the faces /definitive which is the same as the gout dvd.

There is no way a fan even with the best equipment can get a better picture straight off a laserdisc versus a D-1 digital master tape which lucasfilm used for its dvd.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Buster D said:

Arnie.d said:

No, I didn't test the comb filters because of limited time and because the X9 owner had a lot of experience and said the composite out was much better for image quality.

I'm also an X9 owner, and while the results using the composite output might look better at first glance in some circumstances, I don't recommend using it.


The X9, like most other players with both composite & S-Video output, does not have direct composite (also called pure composite) output.  This means that instead of the signal path being disc->TBC->output, it's disc->TBC->3DYC->recombined signal-> output.  So the composite signal is just the S-Video signal recombined back into composite.

 Hey Buster,

According to Kurtis/X9 service manual:

LD-> A/D -> TBC/Frame Memory/DVNR -> D/A -> composite. For the S-Video Output it is LD-> A/D -> TBC/Frame Memory/DVNR -> 3D Y/C/(D/A) -> Y/C output.

So although the X9 composite output isn't "pure" it's also not combined Y/C. For my capture all filters were switched off.

Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Ah, OK.  That's good to know then.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Correction on direct composite, there is no direct composite output on CLD-99/CLD-HF9G. I looked on my archive picture to be sure, two s-video outputs and two composite outputs on shared sockets. The only consumer players with pure output direct from TBC is my C2EX and Pioneer X0 (Both BNC). The older players people think got direct since they dont have s-video goes through outdated hardware that softens the picture. V-8000 is a good player for this purpose but its not as sharp as the two Bnc players. I would use S-video on the X-9 with most filters off except chroma with a low setting.

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I've owned it and seen many reports in Japanese that the CLD-HF9G has direct composite.  Its picture definitely wasn't a recombined Y/C signal.

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I really looking forward to see the results of this, I hope you find some time to finish this great project.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Just a reminder that some of us are really looking forward to this release... I hope you plan to finish it (and hopefully release the raw capture too!).

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Please, don't let this die.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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msycamore said:

Please, don't let this die.

 I second that .