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ady, good spot. I'm a bit torn on this.

the problem here is one of internal inconsistency within the film itself. they only made one xwing cockpit set which has red stripes on the engines.

but the shooting miniatures didn't.

invidual fighters had individual colours.

I think what I'm going to have to do is give them all red stripes to the edge of the cowling to match the cokcpit shot.

in addition I noticed that they did not use the right fighter in relation to the right actor. obviously a by product of just shooting various action shots with the models and then putting what looked good with the film.

the new CG shots all use red 2. all of them.

even when you cut to luke so it's crap for consistency to start with. then at frame 41229, it's wedge skimming the surface, but the miniature you see next, is red 1 you can tell by the massive scorch on the nose. which you see again at 43566 when red leader is killed, ie it is red 1.

sO I'm going to have to get selective I think.

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This would be great to see some consistancy with the stripes and the pilots. As I was helping Garrett do a bit of research for Deleted Magic, it seemed to me that the scenes as arranged according to the shooting script didn't have as many of the continuity problems. It was only once it was edited that the problems came up. People talking to Porkins long after he had been blasted to bacon.

While we are on the subject of continuity, you would also want to make sure the astromech droids are a match on the cgi models compared to the live action stuff. Red Leaders R5 is my fav. The red with the black stripes remind me of this old Corvette I was thinking about buying years ago. Here is a link to a page that mentions the droids and the stripes, etc.
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general shout out there for everyone with archives of pictures.

I need reference of red squadron, preferably from when you've been to the star wars shows which show off the actual prop models.

I have reference for red3. tons of that, but need good reference for red1,2,4,5 and 6 and any other red squadron ships that exist.

I'm not sure they modelled beyond red 6 anway.
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alright you lucky people. here are two videos. one anamorphic and the other correct aspect ratio.

fx shot done at 1.85:1 as per star wars then cropped and resized for the 2.35:1 aspect ratio. starfield, main key light and ambient lighting done as seperate passes then comped in vegas 5.0

this is red 1 on a motion test. and also a lighting test to see if I can match the original movie stuff.


shot1 anamorphic ratio
shot2 correct ratio
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Awesome link. I haven't felt that nerdy in a long time. Maybe whole 3 days...
And I'm only able to get the first clip to play. The second one is having problems on my compy.
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urah.

red1,2,3,5 and 6 finished barring future tweaks.

all with screen accurate astromech droids.

all with accurate pilot helmets, I just didn't make the pilot of red 6 a fat git. those links were fantastic guys, exactly what I was looking for.

all looking very sharp indeed. screenies to follow.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red_squadron.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red1.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red2.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red3.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red5.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red6.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/red_leader.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/wedge.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/biggs.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/luke.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/porkins.jpg

now I gotta sort the y-wing out and we are hot to rock.
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Tellan, I gotta say I was alittle skeptical with your first test shots, but now it is starting to look VERY good, but I'm having problems looking at your new clips, what codecs r u using? Anyway keep up the good work, I will be looking forward to this one.
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wow, you added more pics to your post while I was writing mine, those look great, can't wait to see all of this in motion. You probably already said this, but what programs are you using? I used 3dsmax a while back and did some animations with a millennium falcon model from scifi3d.com, I think that site is down now though. The result was good from my point of view, at least for a newbie like me.
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It's Lagarith... I have trouble with it because I can't install a codec for vdub from a .inf on wine and can't play it on any of my Linux media players.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Tellan, these are looking very sweet.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Originally posted by: Molly
It's Lagarith...


Thanks, no more problems.
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I don't suppose you fancy doing a little work on a certain edit, do you?


oh sure, now you come around. didn't I once suggest this?

don't see why not. once I got the y-wing up to the same standard its a case of animating. the 'easy' part. I think the lighting rig is almost there anyways.

there are a number of final battle shots I have planned. some direct replacements, others are inserts or background additions like you have done.

the codec is lagarith lossless. better for me than huffyuv. I've refrained from using xvid at the moment because the detail I'm trying to show you all gets lost with the compression so I'm keeping it raw at the moment.
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Those pics totally made my day. Awesome!
It's too bad John D. in Red 4 got blasted so early in the film. It'd be cool to see him as well.
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I wouldn't mind John D's, you find me some photo's of his xwing and I'd put him in. I always liked his red helmet. ooooeer missus.

the thing is most of the shots of red4 are a misconception.

the original red4 model got pyro'd during making the movie. ie it got blown up. for some reason the red 5 model then got its wings repainted so it was red 4 instead of 5. but the rest of the model remained the same so unfortunately I ain't got anything of red to base the textures etc on.
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Oh, can I just say that my favorite thing on these new models is the cockpit "transparasteel" (whatever those EU guys call it). The shiny glare on the models in the SE took me right out of the movie. Again.
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Originally posted by: tellan
I don't suppose you fancy doing a little work on a certain edit, do you?


oh sure, now you come around. didn't I once suggest this?


I was going to suggest this but didn't want to speak for adywan, now with your powers combined you could create THE ULTIMATE fan edit.
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todays progress.

WIP for gold leader.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/gold_leader.jpg
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tellan, it's fantastic, where and how can i be initiate to be able (?) to do something like this (any website, tutorial) THANKS.
Grooaoohumpf
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the following are a good start

I use Lightwave, my personal preference. it's the daddy and its what they use on battlestar galactica so it shows it still can do it. 300 was made with lightwave as well.

go to

http://www.lwg3d.org/v3/index.php
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/

two good forums.

CGtalk is another place to go.

then from there you need photoshop to do your texture work which in turn leads to a lot of sites for textures etc.

http://www.scifi3d.com/

has a lot of free meshes to start off. that's where both the y-wing and xwing came from although the xwing and ywing have been completely retextured by myself along with a number of detail changes.

50% of what you see is texture and model, 50% is down to good lighting and camera I personally think.

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thanks a lot tellan, ?I have learned so much for editing from OT and now this...what can i say..the force is strong here..again thanks.
Grooaoohumpf
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further progress on gold leader. taking a break from the xwings at the moment.

this mesh was downloaded from lwg3d resources section but has been reworked by me. the nose section has been completely reprofiled ot make it more screen accurate. canopy has been completely redone as has upper turret gun mount.

torpedo launch tubes added underneath. main hull needs the pipework sorting out yet. new textures applied. hull dimensions have also been resized so it is more in keeping with the shooting model.
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gold leader is pretty much done. few tweaks on textures to do but feast.

here's a before and after shot. the mesh when I got it. the mesh when I have finished with it.

also, two test anims.

these are the two angles for camera I am considering for this 4 second clip in the film. it leads into red leader saying 'all wings call in'

yavin in background.

test anim
test anim
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/gold_leader_old.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lancerproject/gold_leader_new.jpg
When a woman says yes, she means no - when she says maybe, she means no.

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