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HBO short trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsB9ZPO4ipA

The promo says:

Francis Ford Coppola’s legendary gangster epic “The Godfather” and its Oscar®-winning sequel “The Godfather II” are edited into this single film–told chronologically and with added footage that was cut from the original films.

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marin888 said:

HBO short trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsB9ZPO4ipA

The promo says:

Francis Ford Coppola’s legendary gangster epic “The Godfather” and its Oscar®-winning sequel “The Godfather II” are edited into this single film–told chronologically and with added footage that was cut from the original films.

Dear god what is that awful music.

daileyxplanet said:

Looks like that’s the only airing. On my DVR I had to record HBO itself for the 6:05. Thanks for the heads up. 😄

That’s not true at all. Thus far:
Sun, Jan 17, 5:00PM ETHBO EAST
Sun, Jan 17, 8:00PM ETHBO WEST
Sat, Jan 23, 9:00PM ETHBO SIGNATURE EAST
Sun, Jan 24, 12:00AM ETHBO SIGNATURE WEST
Fri, Jan 29, 9:00PM ETHBO ZONE EAST
Sat, Jan 30, 12:00AM ETHBO ZONE WEST
Wed, Feb 3, 5:00PM ETHBO2 EAST
Wed, Feb 3, 8:00PM ETHBO2 WEST

And it WILL be available on demand.

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It’s only HBO DJ for trailers. 😃

The promo says: edited into this single film + R-Rated
Let’s say if they will use only one intro and end credits, this can be the most extended, remastered & uncensored version.

Dave @ godfathermuseum
This is history. The runtime is 424 minutes. This “Godfather Epic” will be like the original Godfather Saga release in 1977 except without the opening and ending credits. With the opening and ending credits, it runs to about 434, and without them it’s around 424 minutes. The Godfather Epic that will be shown on HBO should not be mistaken with the vhs release of 386 minutes. The will truly be history because there will be no HBO logo, no commercials and the violence and language will be there.

The Holy Grail

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digitalfreaknyc said:

marin888 said:

HBO short trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsB9ZPO4ipA

The promo says:

Francis Ford Coppola’s legendary gangster epic “The Godfather” and its Oscar®-winning sequel “The Godfather II” are edited into this single film–told chronologically and with added footage that was cut from the original films.

Dear god what is that awful music.

daileyxplanet said:

Looks like that’s the only airing. On my DVR I had to record HBO itself for the 6:05. Thanks for the heads up. 😄

That’s not true at all. Thus far:
Sun, Jan 17, 5:00PM ETHBO EAST
Sun, Jan 17, 8:00PM ETHBO WEST
Sat, Jan 23, 9:00PM ETHBO SIGNATURE EAST
Sun, Jan 24, 12:00AM ETHBO SIGNATURE WEST
Fri, Jan 29, 9:00PM ETHBO ZONE EAST
Sat, Jan 30, 12:00AM ETHBO ZONE WEST
Wed, Feb 3, 5:00PM ETHBO2 EAST
Wed, Feb 3, 8:00PM ETHBO2 WEST

And it WILL be available on demand.

Thanks, man. It looks like maybe my cable box hasn’t updated yet. Sorry!

EDIT: Also can anyone verify is this the Parts I and II or all three? My HBO listing says “The entire saga of the Corleone crime dynasty re-edited in chronological order from The Godfather I, II and III, including scenes originally deleted from the theatrical versions.”

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daileyxplanet said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

marin888 said:

HBO short trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsB9ZPO4ipA

The promo says:

Francis Ford Coppola’s legendary gangster epic “The Godfather” and its Oscar®-winning sequel “The Godfather II” are edited into this single film–told chronologically and with added footage that was cut from the original films.

Dear god what is that awful music.

daileyxplanet said:

Looks like that’s the only airing. On my DVR I had to record HBO itself for the 6:05. Thanks for the heads up. 😄

That’s not true at all. Thus far:
Sun, Jan 17, 5:00PM ETHBO EAST
Sun, Jan 17, 8:00PM ETHBO WEST
Sat, Jan 23, 9:00PM ETHBO SIGNATURE EAST
Sun, Jan 24, 12:00AM ETHBO SIGNATURE WEST
Fri, Jan 29, 9:00PM ETHBO ZONE EAST
Sat, Jan 30, 12:00AM ETHBO ZONE WEST
Wed, Feb 3, 5:00PM ETHBO2 EAST
Wed, Feb 3, 8:00PM ETHBO2 WEST

And it WILL be available on demand.

Thanks, man. It looks like maybe my cable box hasn’t updated yet. Sorry!

EDIT: Also can anyone verify is this the Parts I and II or all three? My HBO listing says “The entire saga of the Corleone crime dynasty re-edited in chronological order from The Godfather I, II and III, including scenes originally deleted from the theatrical versions.”

No. This is just 1 and 2. No 3.

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Japan Boxset’s Godfather The Epic 1901-1959 Rare LaserDisc
Runtime: 423 Minutes

Technical Details
LD Release Date: 25 Jan 1991
Catalog Number: PILF1147
UPC: 4988102044916
Manufacturer: Pioneer Japan
Publisher: CIC Video

Diameter: 12"
Sides: 8
Cover: Box Set
Spoken Language: English
Country: Japan
Video Format: NTSC

If someone want to have
Rare LaserDisc $94.97
Near-Mint LaserDiscs and Box Set
https://dadons-laserdiscs.com/godfather-the-epic-1901-1959-rare-laserdisc

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I don’t know about anyone else, but this is my most anticipated release in years. I really can’t believe they’re doing this. I probably won’t believe it until I see it.

BTW: I did notice some scene placement changes between the AMC version and the 1901-1980 laserdisc set I used to have, and I was wondering if you guys could shed some light on it.

The scene where young Vito is singing, looking out at the Statue of Liberty, fades up to older Vito leaning against the wall with the “1917” title card coming up. The AMC version just went from singing Vito to older Vito carrying fruit out of the store, with the scene where he’s leaning against the wall taking place a few scenes later. I wonder which order those scenes will be in in the HBO version.

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Croweyes1121 said:

I don’t know about anyone else, but this is my most anticipated release in years. I really can’t believe they’re doing this. I probably won’t believe it until I see it.

You’re not alone. I’ve long hoped to see something like this. I own the 1901-1980 Trilogy on VHS and whilst I was delighted to get hold of the AMC broadcast (presented in HD and OAR), it was an inevitably censored version. HBO are offering something that’s unprecedented and I can’t wait to see it.

I’m curious as to where (and how) they’ve managed to obtain this version from, considering what’s discussed here:

“There were no plans at this point to release the chronological version on DVD. Francis said that the films were meant to be seen with the flashbacks, and I tend to agree. The biggest plus of having The Godfather Trilogy or Epic on tape, or watching The Godfather Saga on TV, was all the extra footage included… …Francis didn’t give a firm “no” though; he cited technical reasons for not being able to include all the extra footage on DVD: the different scenes are in various levels of production (“they weren’t mixed and scored”), making it difficult to add them seemlessly with today’s technology. Maybe, but they seemed to be okay in the boxed sets…”

http://www.thegodfathertrilogy.com/godfather.html

“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”

  • Howard Berk
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JayArgonaut said:

Croweyes1121 said:

I don’t know about anyone else, but this is my most anticipated release in years. I really can’t believe they’re doing this. I probably won’t believe it until I see it.

You’re not alone. I’ve long hoped to see something like this. I own the 1901-1980 Trilogy on VHS and whilst I was delighted to get hold of the AMC broadcast (presented in HD and OAR), it was an inevitably censored version. HBO are offering something that’s unprecedented and I can’t wait to see it.

Yeah. Totally unexpected surprise.

And finally I can say Goodbye to godfathermuseum FanEdit.

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I’m curious, how will this be released? Will it be a multi-disc situation, or will there be an uncut MKV or any other format?

Either way, I’m pumped to check this out. I only found out about this cut after already jumping to HD, and just didn’t want to check out the various SD versions that have been available over the years.

“Lifes a song you don’t get to rehearse, and every single verse can make it that much worse”

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Put me down as someone who would love for the footage to be released all in one go, as an uninterrupted file. A disc-based release would be cool, too, but personally, I would prefer just being able to turn this on and watch it without stopping.

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Will be nice of these who will record it to add few screenshots including title, and extract English subtitles from ts-file - they can be very useful for foreign languages [translate or timings].

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Croweyes1121 said:

Put me down as someone who would love for the footage to be released all in one go, as an uninterrupted file. A disc-based release would be cool, too, but personally, I would prefer just being able to turn this on and watch it without stopping.

I don’t know how others will be doing it (if there is anyone else) but I’m probably doing it as a 2 disc set, like I did the last time. I included the other bonus features as well. Anyone could easily download that and create their own single file.

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That works, I can’t wait to get my hands on this. I’ll be checking HBO Now at 5PM and spot-checking for censorship and a few edits to see if this is more in line with the AMC version (which lost the ‘Vito Corleone, New York City 1917’ title card) or the 1901-1980 version (which had that card and placed the Vito revenge scenes later in Part II after Michael talks to his mother and says “times are changing”). Really interested in how they handle that.

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Oh. My. God. Freaking everything is here. This is truly the Holy Grail. I’m just skimming through. Violence all intact. The 1917 title card is there. Vito revenge scenes are IN ORDER instead of being moved later during Part II like in the 1901-1980 version. Anthony’s ceremony at the beginning of Part II is there. Just freaking BEAUTIFUL. I can’t believe I’m actually seeing this.

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Croweyes1121 said:

Oh. My. God. Freaking everything is here. This is truly the Holy Grail. I’m just skimming through. Violence all intact. The 1917 title card is there. Vito revenge scenes are IN ORDER instead of being moved later during Part II like in the 1901-1980 version. Anthony’s ceremony at the beginning of Part II is there. Just freaking BEAUTIFUL. I can’t believe I’m actually seeing this.

Another reason to do a disc: the TV version had a different opening for 2.

Since this one has a 5.1 track (restored!!), does anyone have the original PCM track from the laserdisc? I’d be interested in syncing it for the release.

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I don’t, I’m sorry. I never actually owned the Epic. I have the 1901-1980 laser, but that wouldn’t serve well for this project. BTW, would you have any interest in taking that off my hands? I can’t watch it anymore (don’t have a player anymore), but never had the heart to part with it until now.

BTW, I’m planning a get-together to screen the entire Trilogy with this as a base. No rush, but just out of curiosity, how long is the typical turn-around on your releases? Again, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for doing this, man. You’re a legend!!

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Croweyes1121 said:

I don’t, I’m sorry. I never actually owned the Epic. I have the 1901-1980 laser, but that wouldn’t serve well for this project. BTW, would you have any interest in taking that off my hands? I can’t watch it anymore (don’t have a player anymore), but never had the heart to part with it until now.

BTW, I’m planning a get-together to screen the entire Trilogy with this as a base. No rush, but just out of curiosity, how long is the typical turn-around on your releases? Again, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for doing this, man. You’re a legend!!

I don’t know, to be honest. If someone has the laser, I’d love to sync it up. That would take some more time.
There are some significant differences between the AMC version and this one so I’d like to go through and edit those together for the “bonus” part of the disc. Kay no longer lights candles at the end either.

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That makes sense as that ending was exclusively there for the Novel for Television version, and contained credits. Basically, that scene was there as a bookend, between broadcast evenings. It has never been present in any of the continuous cuts, sans commercials. I wasn’t expecting to see it here. The editing differences are far closer in the HBO version to the 1901-1980 laser version (aside from the different placement of the Vito revenge scenes) than the AMC NFT version, which is FANTASTIC news if you ask me. I’d be happy to part with my laser if you want it, I’d just need to get a quote on shipping (that box set is heavy).

That said, before you go through all of that effort (syncing audio tracks, etc), I’d personally LOVE just a straight rip of what HBO is airing. It doesn’t have to be your official disc-based release with extras, but just a continuous rip is all I’m really looking for. If I hook you up with the laser (happy to do it), would you hook me up with that? 😃

EDIT: I’ve sent you a PM on our “other” site.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Since this one has a 5.1 track (restored!!), does anyone have the original PCM track from the laserdisc? I’d be interested in syncing it for the release.

That would take some more time.

I’m for BD as it is broadcasted, and later if/when someone preserve re-synced original PCM track from the laserdisc can be easily muxed to BD.

So there is no need to hurry for preserving LD audio, in this way we can get it proper without issues (always something can go wrong), like: V1 fiix this, V2 fix that…

Is possible to extract full English subtitles?

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marin888 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Since this one has a 5.1 track (restored!!), does anyone have the original PCM track from the laserdisc? I’d be interested in syncing it for the release.

That would take some more time.

I’m for BD as it is broadcasted, and later if/when someone preserve re-synced original PCM track from the laserdisc can be easily muxed to BD.

So there is no need to hurry for preserving LD audio, in this way we can get it proper without issues (always something can go wrong), like: V1 fiix this, V2 fix that…

Is possible to extract full English subtitles?

There are no external subtitles. Everything is burned in.

And there shouldn’t be any issues. It’s a straight recording. ANd, if this were a typical release, I’d say “let’s do two different releases.” However, this is going to be (probably) around 50 gigs. It’s not something that I feel like uploading twice, nor do I think people are going to download it twice.

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Slightly OT. A few years ago I was watching the Epic and while I don’t remember which channel, I remember there was roughly 15 minutes devoted to flashbacks of parts 1 and 2 before we got to part 3. The picture quality of this entire sequence was awful, but one thing was important. To jump from one scene to the next, there were various close-up shots of Al Pacino as we see him at the end of part 2 (gray hair and aged lines) in various states of duress. A lot of reaction shots of him as we went through the first 2 films in 15 minutes. One of which was him putting his face in his hands.

I have never seen these shots anywhere else, nor heard anyone talk about it. So can anyone inform me on what the heck it was that I saw? lol

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This is the alternate opening of Godfather Part III. AMC aired that last year. It’s easily searchable on TPB and (I believe) the spleen as well.

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digitalfreaknyc said:
And there shouldn’t be any issues. It’s a straight recording. ANd, if this were a typical release, I’d say “let’s do two different releases.” However, this is going to be (probably) around 50 gigs. It’s not something that I feel like uploading twice, nor do I think people are going to download it twice.

For clarification, I believe the suggestion was to upload the captured video file now (50 GB or so) and then upload the synced LD PCM (2 GB maybe?) by itself when it’s done. Of course, if you’re planning a full BD with menus for this release, it would make it more difficult for people downloading to later remux with the PCM.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think the LD PCM is a priority. The 5.1 track that HBO had sounded good enough to me, and, furthermore, V1 of this release, using the AMC broadcast, also did not feel teh need to include the LD PCM.