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Who saw Lucas's speech at Peoples Choice Awards?

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ROTS won best movie at Peoples Choice Awards, and Lucas was there to receive it:

He was there with his daughter, and seems like a really good family man and that is why I like him, until........he goes into his usually SW acceptance speech......

"I know Star Wars has never won that many awards. (Pause) "And has never been loved by the critics." (Pause, to get a couple of applause.) "Critics have not been my biggest fans." (more applause) "They are usually controlled by the Studios" (Pause) "The reason I make these movies......is for the fans!" (Loud applause)

This is vintage Lucas, aww shucks, every fan loves these movies, just the critics hate them, and that is why we don't win awards. The last time I checked the original SW was nominated for 10 Academy Awards, and was nominated in the big categories: Best Picture, Best Director, and Alec Guiness for Best Supporting Actor, thats right an actor was nominated for his performance in a SW movie, because they usually say the OT performances were just as bad as the PT ones. Star Wars took home 7 awards that night, while being the #1 movie at the box office in 1977.

Message to George: Yeah, there are always critics who don't love every movie, that is natural, but you made that classic one in 1977, which was loved by critics, fans, and the studios, and do you know why? It's a great movie!

And when you said you do it for the fans at the end of your speech, the only ones you keep forgetting are the millions of fans from 1977-83 who can't see those original films anymore on DVD. Sometimes I believe Lucas has selective memory....
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Originally posted by: CO
ROTS won best movie at Peoples Choice Awards, and Lucas was there to receive it:

He was there with his daughter, and seems like a really good family man and that is why I like him, until........he goes into his usually SW acceptance speech......

"I know Star Wars has never won that many awards. (Pause) "And has never been loved by the critics." (Pause, to get a couple of applause.) "Critics have not been my biggest fans." (more applause) "They are usually controlled by the Studios" (Pause) "The reason I make these movies......is for the fans!" (Loud applause)

This is vintage Lucas, aww shucks, every fan loves these movies, just the critics hate them, and that is why we don't win awards. The last time I checked the original SW was nominated for 10 Academy Awards, and was nominated in the big categories: Best Picture, Best Director, and Alec Guiness for Best Supporting Actor, thats right an actor was nominated for his performance in a SW movie, because they usually say the OT performances were just as bad as the PT ones. Star Wars took home 7 awards that night, while being the #1 movie at the box office in 1977.

Message to George: Yeah, there are always critics who don't love every movie, that is natural, but you made that classic one in 1977, which was loved by critics, fans, and the studios, and do you know why? It's a great movie!

And when you said you do it for the fans at the end of your speech, the only ones you keep forgetting are the millions of fans from 1977-83 who can't see those original films anymore on DVD. Sometimes I believe Lucas has selective memory....


duh Star Wars didn't get many awards and the critics didn't like it cuz he talking about the Special Editions he forgot about that wonderful awards for the OOT
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Originally posted by: CO
ROTS won best movie at Peoples Choice Awards, and Lucas was there to receive it:

He was there with his daughter, and seems like a really good family man and that is why I like him, until........he goes into his usually SW acceptance speech......

"I know Star Wars has never won that many awards. (Pause) "And has never been loved by the critics." (Pause, to get a couple of applause.) "Critics have not been my biggest fans." (more applause) "They are usually controlled by the Studios" (Pause) "The reason I make these movies......is for the fans!" (Loud applause)

This is vintage Lucas, aww shucks, every fan loves these movies, just the critics hate them, and that is why we don't win awards. The last time I checked the original SW was nominated for 10 Academy Awards, and was nominated in the big categories: Best Picture, Best Director, and Alec Guiness for Best Supporting Actor, thats right an actor was nominated for his performance in a SW movie, because they usually say the OT performances were just as bad as the PT ones. Star Wars took home 7 awards that night, while being the #1 movie at the box office in 1977.

Message to George: Yeah, there are always critics who don't love every movie, that is natural, but you made that classic one in 1977, which was loved by critics, fans, and the studios, and do you know why? It's a great movie!

And when you said you do it for the fans at the end of your speech, the only ones you keep forgetting are the millions of fans from 1977-83 who can't see those original films anymore on DVD. Sometimes I believe Lucas has selective memory....


The thing about the original SW film is that it was new for its time. Period. It was refereshing and that's why people liked it so much. As one guy said in the Empire of Dreams documentary "You bring it out too early, and it's Buck Rogers. You bring it out too late, it flops. But if you bring it out right when the war in vietnam was ending, it's a hit." or something like that.
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How it should have been:

"I know Star Wars never won that many awards..."

(Silence. Crickets. Sound of a lone man coughing on the distant)

"... and now it won. Thank you."

(Leaves. Three people applude)
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This is Lucas exact speech word for word I found on the internet:


"Thank you. Thank you all. This is a very, very important award for me. Star Wars, oddly enough, doesn't really get that many awards. I'm not a big favorite with the critics, but who listens to them? I'm not a big industry favorite either, but of course they are a bunch of studio executives. The most important people for any filmmaker, the reason that I make films, is for you! The audience rules! Thank you. Thank you very much!"



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"Hey dad... dad! Say 'rules' in your speech- you'll seem SOOOOO hip!"
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Originally posted by: CO
"The most important people for any filmmaker, the reason that I make films, is for you!"


The part he forgot:

"Except for the whole OT on DVD thing. That was about my needs as a creative person. They're mine, so I can do what I want. But I love you guys, and everything I do, I do it for you. Really."

<cue Bryan Adams as Lucas wipes his ass with a printout of the originaltrilogy.com petition>
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No, he doesnt have selective memory, he's a liar.

I think I know Whitewolf's inspiration for Clan Malkavian now.
It's him!
Fine, mister Lucas, while you're at it why dont you replace Lando with will smith?
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I agree with him. The PT "Star Wars" hasn't won very many awards. Why? Well, because it sucked.

However, "Star Wars" from 1977 walked home with 7 oscars. Guess which boat that movie gets to float in with? That's right, "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind," "Lawrence of Arabia," "Titanic," a whole plethora of outstanding acadamy award winning movies.

What did the PT win? That's right. Jack shit. It should have won a Raspberry award. I'm surprised it wasn't nominated.


BWAH HA HA HA!! He said, "For the fans!" Bwah ha ha haha!!!

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Suck it George.
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

However, "Star Wars" from 1977 walked home with 7 oscars. Guess which boat that movie gets to float in with? That's right, "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind," "Lawrence of Arabia," "Titanic," a whole plethora of outstanding acadamy award winning movies.


It was new. Vietnam was over. It was a breath of fresh air.
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Very nice pic Jenny.

http://www.freeimageupload.co.uk/images_1928/k2pac.jpg


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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
I agree with him. The PT "Star Wars" hasn't won very many awards. Why? Well, because it sucked.

However, "Star Wars" from 1977 walked home with 7 oscars. Guess which boat that movie gets to float in with? That's right, "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind," "Lawrence of Arabia," "Titanic," a whole plethora of outstanding acadamy award winning movies.

What did the PT win? That's right. Jack shit. It should have won a Raspberry award. I'm surprised it wasn't nominated.


BWAH HA HA HA!! He said, "For the fans!" Bwah ha ha haha!!!

http://rofl.ru/files/images/1124550653_r5v.jpg
Suck it George.


Jenny!!!! I love you!!! I just friggin love you!!!!

Great pic!!!!!

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

However, "Star Wars" from 1977 walked home with 7 oscars. Guess which boat that movie gets to float in with? That's right, "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind," "Lawrence of Arabia," "Titanic," a whole plethora of outstanding acadamy award winning movies.


It was new. Vietnam was over. It was a breath of fresh air.

I'm sick of hearing you spout some soundbite you heard on a documentary you just watched last week or some article you read. Fuck Vietnam. I don't want to hear any revisionist movie historian vietnam crap. Maybe it was a factor, sure, but Star Wars captured so many hearts and minds for other reasons. I'm English. I live in England. I was born in 1981. I first saw Star Wars probably in about 1985 or 6. I still love it, I love the OT. THe prequels are just not as good. Shut up about Vietnam. Shut up, Shut up, shut up, shut up, SHUT UP. The prequels didn't win shit cos they ARE shit, and you are a teenybopper neophyte who regurgitates the bullshit excuses of the Lucas and co and then flip flop to hating them and calling McCallum an asskisser depending on who you're trying to piss off/appease at the time. One minute you hate them, one minute you're backing them up and I get the distinct impression you don't even really care either way and are just saying wahtever to bait people. Maybe it makes you feel imprtant or something, and I know by posting this I am just feeding your need for attention but please, make your fucking mind up, and maybe try developing a mind of your own so you can bring something worthwhile to a discussion. If Jay wants to ban me, so be it, I'll be very sad, but I just have to say people like you are ruining Star Wars, and you personally are ruining my enjoyment of OT.com. You have nothing to say, and you say it repeatedly. I was reading Star Wars books and watching documentaries before you could fucking walk, I have already read or heard every view/opinion/lucas lie/anecdote/vietnam statement.

War does not make one great.

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We all have a right to our opinion. I can see that you just needed to get that off your chest, so no hard feelings, YIYF.
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Don't play mr nice with me. I don't think you know what an opinion is, unless it's a second-hand opinion like all of yours are.

Jay, I NEEEEEEED the ignore function, and I need it NOW.

War does not make one great.

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Mmmmm... I shoulda brung me some marshmallows- thar be a fire in here....

*sigh*

I too am sick of hearing this recent Vietnam reference in regards to Star Wars. If there was any vague truth to that viewpoint at all it never, ever showed at the time the OT was being made or released. In fact truly the first I remember hearing any connection at all was Lucas 'defending' his politcal content in the PT (ie Nute Gunray, the 'This is how democracy dies' line, etc) and GL's defense was 'hey man I don't know nothing about no George Bush I'm a Vietnam baby, baby!'

And I kinda get the impression that GL, Spielberg, Coppola, et al weren't too concerned about anti-war rallies, etc when they were in film school- just making movies and trying to pass classes. That's not to say we all aren't products of our generation because of course we are- its just GL isn't an Oliver Stone (though his delusions seem to be rivaling Ollie's at times )
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I believe that Star Wars did set the stage for reviving the fantasy genre. And I'm sure that part of its appeal was its "breath of fresh air" factor from the times. But the fact of the matter is that it was simply a good enough movie to do so. Star Wars wasn't the only science fiction/fantasy movie to come out in that time period, so it wasn't simply because Vietnam was over, and we needed something new. If some other like movie had revolutionized a year or two before Star Wars, Star Wars still probably would have been huge because it was just good.

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The year before, Rocky won Best Picture, and that is the ultimate feel good movie. Star Wars was nominated the next year and lost out to Annie Hall, partly because it was one of those years that Woody Allen was due for an Academy Award. Now Annie Hall is a great movie, but Lucas should have atleast won Best Director, for what SW was able to put on screen.

People forget that Star Wars, the original, was nominated cause its just a great movie. (Period)

I have been saying this ever since ROTS came out on DVD, and everyone can watch them now 1-6, the original SW is getting diminished because alot of newer fans are watching it as Episode IV, with the context of Anakins struggle, and it just aint there in the movie. All of us saw it as the first movie in the series, without context of who was related to who, and that is why it was a classic by fans until the last few years.

Can anyone explain why a movie is a classic for 25 years, and then the PT is made, and all of the sudden it goes from the first film in the series to the fourth, and many newer fans feel it is inferior, and doesn't totally fit with the other movies cause it's not centered around Vader?

The movie hasn't changed, just the context, and I have always said, Lucas has screwed up the one classic SW movie he directed. Good job George.
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Actually, most fans don't feel that way, from what I've read. ANH isn't even supposed to be about "Anakin's struggle." No, Anakin is dead. It's supposed to be about Vader's position in the empire and is supposed to show him being controlled by higher up members of the empire. He is supposed to be portrayed as heartless and tyranical. And it does a pretty good job of showing that, IMHO. I mean, someone would have to be pretty dumb to think that ANH shows, or is even supposed to show, his "struggles." The idea introduced in ROTS is that the Emperor had created a monster who was no longer the good man Anakin Skywalker was. There was no "struggle" in the ways that he had as Anakin. And no, ROTS does not diminish the greatness of ANH.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Don't play mr nice with me. I don't think you know what an opinion is, unless it's a second-hand opinion like all of yours are.

Jay, I NEEEEEEED the ignore function, and I need it NOW.
i agree with you, but what would life be here without adamwan?

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Actually, most fans don't feel that way, from what I've read. ANH isn't even supposed to be about "Anakin's struggle." No, Anakin is dead. It's supposed to be about Vader's position in the empire and is supposed to show him being controlled by higher up members of the empire. He is supposed to be portrayed as heartless and tyranical. And it does a pretty good job of showing that, IMHO. I mean, someone would have to be pretty dumb to think that ANH shows, or is even supposed to show, his "struggles." The idea introduced in ROTS is that the Emperor had created a monster who was no longer the good man Anakin Skywalker was. There was no "struggle" in the ways that he had as Anakin. And no, ROTS does not diminish the greatness of ANH.
Yawn...

War does not make one great.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Actually, most fans don't feel that way, from what I've read. ANH isn't even supposed to be about "Anakin's struggle." No, Anakin is dead. It's supposed to be about Vader's position in the empire and is supposed to show him being controlled by higher up members of the empire. He is supposed to be portrayed as heartless and tyranical. And it does a pretty good job of showing that, IMHO. I mean, someone would have to be pretty dumb to think that ANH shows, or is even supposed to show, his "struggles." The idea introduced in ROTS is that the Emperor had created a monster who was no longer the good man Anakin Skywalker was. There was no "struggle" in the ways that he had as Anakin. And no, ROTS does not diminish the greatness of ANH.
Yawn...