Maybe they could round up all those commentaries that only appeared on starwars.com as well.
Where were you in '77?
At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?
Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?
Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”
If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.
I have a sincere, doubtful suspicion whether the studio would put anywhere near the quality of effort into a restoration as Harmy (and co.) has. I do want an OUT Remaster, especially since I can then legitimately prefer an existing HD OUT without being labelled “nerdy” or “purist”, but I don’t think it will hold a candle to Despecialized. There was just so much painstaking attention to detail put in.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
You’re kidding, right? Despecialized is amazing and we are all grateful to Harmy, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a color corrected 1080p transfer interlaced with shots from laser disc and minimally restored 35mm.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
You’re kidding, right? Despecialized is amazing and we are all grateful to Harmy, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a color corrected 1080p transfer interlaced with shots from laser disc and minimally restored 35mm.
No, I’m not. LFL already screwed up the color timing, contrast and saturation on the SE Blurays, so I don’t have much faith that they will correct it for the official HD OUT.
You assume that the negatives used by LFL would not also have to be color-corrected. Sure, they might be able to produce a 4K transfer, which is fantastic, but I’m not convinced the rest of it would be superior, considering how they’ve treated the SEs even up to now.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
A better transfer from a better source would already make it superior. If the colors etc are bad that’s easier to fix than all the other stuff harmy has had to do.
If the colors etc are bad that’s easier to fix than all the other stuff harmy has had to do.
True. I suppose what I’m really saying is that I imagine a new official remaster just being a new jumping point for the likes of Harmy to do it proper justice.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
A better transfer from a better source would already make it superior. If the colors etc are bad that’s easier to fix than all the other stuff harmy has had to do.
True. I suppose what I’m really saying is that I imagine a new official remaster just being a new jumping point for the likes of Harmy to do it proper justice.
Yeah, i thought that might be what you were getting at… which is probably a justified position given the history.
At this point I wonder if LFL would even use the RMW master or if they would just start over from scratch. Mike Verta had some harsh words for the shots featured in their demo reel and doubts that it was simply a “work in progress.”
Gareth Edwards and John Knoll actually saw the finished product with their own eyes at the beginning of pre-production on Rogue One (which would’ve been right around the time this thread was started). One of them said it looked “different” than they remembered. They also said it had only just been completed, which makes me wonder if George was even consulted in the finished color-timing since this was presumably still his version.
We also don’t know if Empire and Jedi had been finished or not. There were no shots from the latter in RMW’s demo reel.
Even if we ever see 4K versions of OUT from Disney, I still hope this community will keep editing and regrading even those. There will definitely be green, yellow or blue tints all over. It’s so standard with all studio releases. I enjoy more what you guys come up with.
So long as Carrie’s face doesn’t look like a magenta crayon, I’m not going to rip any hair out over the color timing.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Please! Expect complete silence regarding the originals for the foreseeable future. It’s the only way to remain sane. I allowed myself to get my hope up for the 40th at Celebration for no reason at all. As soon as George walked out I knew it wasn’t going to happen.
I’m with you on this. Not getting my hopes up on an OT release all over again. The 40th was the time to do it, or to at least acknowledge it as a thing.
The surprise John Williams concert was nice though.
I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.
It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.
But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”
Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.
I sincerely hope that you’re right, but god dammit, when?!
If this Fox buyout actually goes through, maybe a whole lot sooner than we’d thought.
God willing, but I’m not getting my hopes up.
If memory serves, the stuff everyone was looking forward to about the blu-ray bonus discs (deleted scenes, vintage docs) were very OT-centric, and this is back when George was still in charge!
That’s partly because the special features for the PT in the Complete Saga set are horrible. There is so many good features in the DVD releases it’s a damn shame they didn’t bring them over for the BD.
There is a special place in hell for people who don’t archive extras and make fans double-dip.
At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?
Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?
Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”
If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.
I used to feel this way, but they let that boat sail.
I’m not buying even one more movie to get the three I want.
I still feel this way, and I’m fairly sure that if we’re lucky enough to get the OUT, then at best, we’ll be getting it in a giant set that’s overpriced as an extra. The thought of getting it on it’s own for a good price seems like a pie-in-the-sky dream.
At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?
Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?
Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”
If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.
I have a sincere, doubtful suspicion whether the studio would put anywhere near the quality of effort into a restoration as Harmy (and co.) has. I do want an OUT Remaster, especially since I can then legitimately prefer an existing HD OUT without being labelled “nerdy” or “purist”, but I don’t think it will hold a candle to Despecialized. There was just so much painstaking attention to detail put in.
In other words, I have to figure out how to get my Blu-ray burner working 😉. In all seriousness, what Harmy has accomplished is pretty amazing, but frankly, Disney would have access to the original master materials and industry professional technology.
You’re kidding, right? Despecialized is amazing and we are all grateful to Harmy, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a color corrected 1080p transfer interlaced with shots from laser disc and minimally restored 35mm.
Yeah, I mean what Harmy has accomplished pretty damned amazing, but like I said, Disney would have access to professional restoration equipment and billions of dollars of technology, not to mention prints, original elements, etc.
Please! Expect complete silence regarding the originals for the foreseeable future. It’s the only way to remain sane. I allowed myself to get my hope up for the 40th at Celebration for no reason at all. As soon as George walked out I knew it wasn’t going to happen.
I’m with you on this. Not getting my hopes up on an OT release all over again. The 40th was the time to do it, or to at least acknowledge it as a thing.
The surprise John Williams concert was nice though.
After getting burned as badly as I did by the GOUT announcement, I’ve learned to not get my hopes up about any of the OUT news anymore. I’ve just sort of resigned myself that the chances are slim and none.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
People always break up massive sets and sell discs individually on Ebay. That’s how I got most of the massive Halloween set Blu-Rays without the Rob Zombie remakes.
And if we get a botched OOT out of this deal. We have top men like Harmy who can fix it!
Where were you in '77?
Speaking of that Halloween set, is there any way other than that set to get the first movie with the original mono track? Because I’m really not that interested in the rest of the set. What extras are exclusive to it?
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
Not sure. There is a smaller 10 disc version of the set that omits some extras that can be found for much less. The individual discs from the 15 disc set are easy to spot in their black keep cases.
Where were you in '77?
if we get a botched OOT out of this deal. We have top men like Harmy who can fix it!
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Speaking of that Halloween set, is there any way other than that set to get the first movie with the original mono track? Because I’m really not that interested in the rest of the set. What extras are exclusive to it?
The American version of the 35th anniversary blu ray has the mono track.
The Person in Question
Speaking of that Halloween set, is there any way other than that set to get the first movie with the original mono track? Because I’m really not that interested in the rest of the set. What extras are exclusive to it?
The American version of the 35th anniversary blu ray has the mono track.
Not really. The mono mix on there is a downmix of the 5/7.1 remix.
If you want a single release version of Halloween on Blu-ray with the REAL original Mono track, the original Anchor Bay release is the way to go.
So I understand today (Thursday) was to be the day the news about the deal was to be released. It also happens to be the day that TLJ opens in cinemas (at least it is here in Australia).
Coincidence much? Maybe it does point to some significance for the deal in regards to SW?
.Val
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
Its happening. Now Disney will have full control over Star Wars, including the rights to Star Wars '77.
Also they can use Galactus and Doctor Doom in the MCU.
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
Scary but with exciting prospects at the same time 😉
Not a bad paycheque for Murdoch at $52bn, a bloke that started off by inheriting his dad’s newspaper business. Although it was reported the deal may have gone for $75bn, sounds like Disney did some hard bargaining 😛
.Val
As to timing, maybe Disney is low on cash and needed the money from The Last Jedi’s opening day.
TLJ opening day will only give them a few million, which would barely dent they $50+ BILLION they’re getting Fox for.
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TLJ opening day will only give them a few million, which would barely dent they $50+ BILLION they’re getting Fox for.
You don’t say 😉
And its done.