Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray? — Page 24

Fang Zei said:

(In reply to Wazzles’ post):

From Zombie’s article on the subject over at Saving Star Wars:
By 2020, it will be pink, but salvageable, but all release prints would basically be unwatchable as-is, even Return of the Jedi’s.

I know the real focus on this section was interpositives for telecine, but it seems a bit uninformed when it comes to LPPs. We’re damn close to 2020 and well cared for Jedi prints will look just as good as they do now, and as they have in recent years. As we’ve seen, even ESB in cold storage can have good color in this day and age. Though, that particular print may or may not succumb to mold by 2020.

With regards to the Itunes / Amazon digital releases, Disney put the original soundtracks back on itunes, but with different covers from the original release (basically the box art for the main digital release). You can tell this is the original because not only is the track listing the same as the original release, but they changed the release date to its original release date and THE COPYRIGHT DATE TO THIS YEAR!!! Good on you Disney!!!

Sweet deal!

I mean, I’d be pretty content if we only got newly remastered, complete scores of the original and prequel trilogy this year than say a Blu ray release of the theatrical versions of Star Wars. To me, both of these hypothetical products are going to become a reality one day, and I don’t mind if one comes out first over the other.

Kinda moving off topic a bit, but is disney still going to release the prequels on Bluray 3D? I remeber seeing multiple articles touching on this, (such as this one), http://www.geek.com/tech/star-wars-prequel-trilogy-coming-to-3d-blu-ray-rogue-one-in-editing-and-new-star-wars-tv-in-the-works-1664746/ , even though many would say it is a gimmick and many more be against because the prequels are not held in such high standard, it would be a shame to throw out all that hard work that conversionist did for it

I doubt it, since 3D TVs are dead. If we do get a prequel release this year, that’s probably what it will be, though. That way, assuming the OUT is released, that will give people some sort of a gimmick to double dip on the prequels as well.

It would almost be like releasing them on Laserdisc. The technology is that obsolete now. The last 3D TV manufacturers are ceasing production this year. Consider that the last VCR manufacturer ceased production just last year, and it will be apparent how much of a massive failure this technology was. It seems like it would be commercial suicide for Disney to release 3D Blu-rays of the prequels, considering almost no one would buy them both because the movies are the least popular Star Wars movies, and because no one has a 3D TV. I can’t imagine a less successful Star Wars product for Disney to release short of actually releasing the prequels on Laserdisc. In both cases they would be appealing to tiny niche markets who still use a home theater technology that is no longer in production, so why not?

I will be especially pissed if we actually do get this but DON’T get the OUT. It would seriously make me question whether or not Disney does in fact want money, which is pretty insane.

Disney has been big on releasing 3D Blu Rays despite their lack of popularity. Every new movie they release has 3 versions: DVD only, BD/DVD/digital, and 3D/BD/DVD/digital. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the released a 3D/BD combo pack of the PT, it they release it at all this year.

I’m not sure it would be commercial suicide as they already have the prequels finished in 3D, right? It would surely be a waste of money to produce them now. But if they already have them, it’s probably pretty harmless to release them. It was not that many months ago that their 3D TFA blu-ray was released.

Backtracking a bit here but I don’t know why people keep jumping on the “maybe a 4K release” train, it’s not going to happen this year or any time soon; Disney does not support 4K and they’re not going to suddenly start in the next couple of months with an older Star Wars movie over one of their own animated films or even one of the newer Star Wars films.
As nice as it would be the general consumer has grown up with or gotten used to the SE and a 4K release of the OUT is two niches a billion dollar company is not going to take a gamble on.

People younger than 30 isn’t the general consumer base for buying the star wars movies on blu ray. And unless Disney is living under a rock i don’t see how they could think releasing the out would be a financial gamble.

Ryan-SWI said:

Backtracking a bit here but I don’t know why people keep jumping on the “maybe a 4K release” train, it’s not going to happen this year or any time soon; Disney does not support 4K and they’re not going to suddenly start in the next couple of months with an older Star Wars movie over one of their own animated films or even one of the newer Star Wars films.
As nice as it would be the general consumer has grown up with or gotten used to the SE and a 4K release of the OUT is two niches a billion dollar company is not going to take a gamble on.

Says you. Anyways Fox owns ANH inpertuity (did I say that right??) so if a 4K remaster of that film is done it’ll be distributed by them.

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

It’s no different, except for the fact that there’s now the ticking clock of Fox completely losing all rights to the non-ANH stuff in 2020 when they revert to Lucasfilm and therefore Disney.

Lucasfilm could authorize a release in the next year or two, of course, but there are multiple factors playing into all of this.

The fact that we now know for sure that there’s been a new scan of the OT is reason enough for Lucasfilm to say SOMETHING by the time Celebration rolls around. They really can’t continue to ignore the elephant in the room.

Also, I just don’t see a new home video release (one that isn’t simply another recycling of the 2011 discs) happening unless it’s also the debut of these movies on the new 4k format. Sure, they COULD choose to make the remastered OOT’s release regular blu-ray only, but I feel like it’s too late for that now. Every 4k release so far has included a regular blu-ray copy for schmucks like me who want to future-proof everything.

Assuming that Lucasfilm isn’t going to simply give us only the SE yet again (now in 4k!) and that they’ll make each OT movie a two-disc thing at the very least, they’d probably have to forgo including a regular blu-ray on the 4k release since it would be too many discs. They would probably do a separate, 1080p SKU kind of like how Blade Runner didn’t bother including a regular dvd copy with the blu-ray and hd-dvd releases.

That said, way more people have regular blu-ray players at this point than 4k, and a remastered OOT would sell like crazy. Sure, it’s going to piss off those of us who’d like to future proof our media, but like I said, if it’s a multi-disc release then they probably wouldn’t include a regular blu-ray in the 4k package anyway.

As said, Disney is dragging their feet in terms of jumping on to the new format, although we pretty much know for sure it’s happening in the next year or so. They probably wouldn’t want the Fox-distributed movies hitting 4k before TFA and RO. At the very least I’m sure they’d want their own Star Wars movies hitting the format at the same time if not first.

But, like I said, maybe we’ll see a remastered OOT on regular blu-ray in the next year or so and then Disney will wait until 2020/2021 to put the entire I-IX saga out in a 4k collection, having worked out a deal with Fox to include ANH.

Ryan-SWI said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

I never said Fox can just release it when they want. I was just saying ANH will be distributed through Fox into the foreseeable future provided of course Lucasfilm wants them too. Lucasfilm is really the ones in charge of where the movies are going.

As far as the OOT never being released, I don’t think it’ll be this year but in the future who knows?? Studios always want excuses to resell their shit and simply giving out the same SE everytime is gonna get to a point where that’s not enough of a selling point. But if you are positively, absolutely, truly, undoubtedly, with out a doubt, no second thoughts whatsoever, totally convinced it will never happen well more power to you. But let those who are still holding out hope to their business and dreams, as potentially hopeless as they may be.

crissrudd4554 said:

Ryan-SWI said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

I never said Fox can just release it when they want. I was just saying ANH will be distributed through into the foreseeable future provided of course Lucasfilm wants them too. Lucasfilm is really the ones in charge of where the movies are going.

As far as the OOT never being released, I don’t think it’ll be this year but in the future who knows?? Studios always want excuses to resell their shit and simply giving out the same SE everytime is gonna get to a point where that’s not enough of a selling point. But if you are positively, absolutely, truly, undoubtedly, with out a doubt, no second thoughts whatsoever, totally convinced it will never happen well more power to you. But let those who are still holding out hope to their business and dreams, as potentially hopeless as they may be.

I would argue it’s already gotten to that point.

They’ve sold us the same discs three times in a row now.

Fang Zei said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Ryan-SWI said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

I never said Fox can just release it when they want. I was just saying ANH will be distributed through into the foreseeable future provided of course Lucasfilm wants them too. Lucasfilm is really the ones in charge of where the movies are going.

As far as the OOT never being released, I don’t think it’ll be this year but in the future who knows?? Studios always want excuses to resell their shit and simply giving out the same SE everytime is gonna get to a point where that’s not enough of a selling point. But if you are positively, absolutely, truly, undoubtedly, with out a doubt, no second thoughts whatsoever, totally convinced it will never happen well more power to you. But let those who are still holding out hope to their business and dreams, as potentially hopeless as they may be.

I would argue it’s already gotten to that point.

They’ve sold us the same discs three times in a row now.

Plus the digital releases

Totally forgot about those.

They could just give us only the SE on the 4k UHD release, but they should be smart enough by now to know - 4k or no 4k, HDR or no HDR - that no one cares about buying the original movies yet again unless it’s the original versions.

If I had a penny for every time I’ve read some random person’s facebook / comment section post about wanting the original versions on blu-ray, I’d be an eleven thousandaire.

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