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Tyrphanax said:

What! Man, I couldn’t disagree more! Frankly, I’d call this episode essential.

Plus, this episode is all about the origins of Wedge Antilles! How is that not worthwhile? He was one of my favorite OT characters growing up, and I really enjoyed his EU exploits as well, so I really enjoyed this look into how he came to fight alongside the rest of the Rebels in the OT. And not only that, we get to see Hobbie, who was a Rogue Squadron member at Hoth.

The opening was amazing. I love the way the space battles feel perfectly OT. The pilot deaths and the effects and everything were perfect. Loved seeing TIE Interceptors again, especially with the red racing stripes like the 181st had in the X-Wing comics, and I believe this is the first Rebel transport we’ve seen in the series so far? So that’s another classic Rebel ship brought to the show.

It was also cool to see someone using the card slot on an R2 unit for the first time since ANH, too. And the Imperial banter about whatever combination of letters and numbers is always funny. The Pryce/Sabine fight was great, I thought.

I always enjoy a look into the inner workings of the galaxy, so seeing things like how TIE pilots are trained was great. Most of it felt like it was right out of the X-Wing books, which I loved. TIE simulators and training scenarios and all that. Something about the design of the Skystrike Academy felt familiar to me, too… I also felt like the music was inspired by Rogue Squadron, at least a bit.

Also, I immediately figured out the Fulcrum Agent during their message.

Plus, not a single lightsaber all episode. Perfect.

As an aside, I think of all the updates to the show’s costumes, I’m most excited about the little orange triangle on Kanan’s tunic. It always screams “McQuarrie!” to me. I’m also catching a lot of the animation updates they’ve made. Movements are much smoother and realistic now. Lots of new small animations adding a lot of life to the characters as well. Also seems like the lighting and effects are improved as well. Some of the space shots looked “real.”

^What he said.

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DominicCobb said:

I understand not putting a Rebels character in RO, that just makes sense, but why not the other way around? Would be an opportunity sorely missed. Isn’t this what the story group is for?

They did put a Clone Wars character in RO though, so maybe. On a side note, I’d love to see how people react if Maul is in an upcoming movie. I’d bet that 90% of people think Maul is still dead.

I don’t think they could do Maul… they’d have to explain everything again for the movie and that’d take up a ton of time. I’d like it, but it’d be so much to do. Maybe his own Anthology or something?

I really do not have any interest in the Cartoon personally but in terms of plot threads to me it seems this is who that is in that Picture. Darth Maul. But we are possibly going back in time here and not being in the era of the OT?

I really can not think who else that CAN be… It would be very weird to have Darth Maul so close to the original Star Wars. But this of course could be a sort of flash back to an earlier time but the Room does seem very Original Trilogy.

If it is Maul, then I call it a Bad Idea, even though I like the character.

But it could be in 32BBY which I would be ok with

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I mean it could be almost anything. There’s almost no information in that image about any of the characters. The only thing we can reasonably assume is that the two red-robed figures are Imperial Royal Guards and that the setting is an Imperial base of some sort.

Anything beyond that is baseless speculation.

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Whilst I agree with you, If you can Bring Anakin Back to life and make him a half Robot Sith you can Bring Maul back and make him a half Robot Sith too.

Why is Darth Maul any different?.. He is not any different and the cartoon unfortunately proves this.

It becomes Less speculative when you think about who would be kneeling down. It’s not Vader and it’s not a Bacta Tank (God that Bacta Tank observation get’s on my wick).

These Cartoons under Disney is playing a rather more important role than we have been used to previously.

I would not put car parts from a ford fiesta in to a Ferrari if I had a Ferrari though, that would be just as crazy.

I really hope it is not Darth Maul unless like I said we are going back to an earlier time.

But let’s not forget who the audience that is being targeted. Rogue one falls in to the 10 years old plus category I would say.

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Ronster said:
These Cartoons under Disney is playing a rather more important role than we have been used to previously.

In what way exactly ? So far only speculation such as these, so, in other words, nothing.

Anyway…

S03E03

Ok, nice episode. Quite classic (we have already seen that in season 1), but at least it works. I don’t believe Ezra’s going to join the dark side (this suubplot is put at rest since the first season 3 episode) but Agent Callus can join the Rebellion at some point.

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Jeebus said:
they know we really want to see Thrawn, Vader and Maul.

Yep, I want to learn more about these two brand new characters…

Serioulsy, Vader made a few cameo appearances that were fun but the show is not about him (nor it is about Maul), there are already 6 movies (and CW/TCW) about/with Vader, that’s enough.

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MalàStrana said:

Ronster said:
These Cartoons under Disney is playing a rather more important role than we have been used to previously.

In what way exactly ? So far only speculation such as these, so, in other words, nothing.

Anyway…

It has been confirmed that Characters from this cartoon or other cartoons could show up in the movies. They already have in fact.

Rogue one’s screenplay is also written collaboratively by Gary Whitta who also wrote some episodes for this Cartoon.

the dangerous thing is though that this cartoon is considered actually Canon by Disney as actual events that happened which is most alarming. All the Jedi running around not sure if it’s a complete contradiction of events or not. But it does seem to be overstepping the mark when “Canon” is plastered on it.

Perhaps Palpatine survived The Destruction of the Deathstar 2, better build another one to finish him off properly.

Perhaps Dooku could be brought back with a Robot Body and just put his head on the top?

Whilst I could not care less what the hell is done in a cartoon, Point your canon somewhere else. I call for Relegation of this schlock. It’s fine and well being a kids program and all but.

Is a Kids Cartoon going to Kill all These Jedi and Sith apart from… Obiwan and Vader? And what just in time to say hey back to normal? We are in the OT era now.

If it treads on the films toes no problem but let’s clearly relegate it to what it is… A cartoon.

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Ronster said:

MalàStrana said:

Ronster said:
These Cartoons under Disney is playing a rather more important role than we have been used to previously.

In what way exactly ? So far only speculation such as these, so, in other words, nothing.

Anyway…

It has been confirmed that Characters from this cartoon or other cartoons could show up in the movies. They already have in fact.

Rogue one’s screenplay is also written collaboratively by Gary Whitta who also wrote some episodes for this Cartoon.

the dangerous thing is though that this cartoon is considered actually Canon by Disney as actual events that happened which is most alarming. All the Jedi running around not sure if it’s a complete contradiction of events or not. But it does seem to be overstepping the mark when “Canon” is plastered on it.

Perhaps Palpatine survived The Destruction of the Deathstar 2, better build another one to finish him off properly.

Perhaps Dooku could be brought back with a Robot Body and just put his head on the top?

Whilst I could not care less what the hell is done in a cartoon, Point your canon somewhere else. I call for Relegation of this schlock.

Is a Kids Cartoon going to Kill all These Jedi and Sith apart from… Obiwan and Vader? And what just in time to say hey back to normal?

If it treads on the films toes no problem but let’s clearly relegate it to what it is… A cartoon.

If any of these things happen we’ll have proof that Disney is stealing ideas from Ronster.

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Well don’t make fun I came across the planet Despayer which is from the Star Wars EU and the name was taken and possibly some plot also from a guy developing an adventure game (A bit like Monkey Island) also coincidently it was about stealing the death star plans.

There’s nothing special about my ideas or anybody’s ideas they are all up for grabs. We don’t own it.

Saw Gerrara - Atleast get’s let off has he was originally attached to the Live action TV series that was canned developed by George Lucus involvement and it was going to be played by Forrest Whitaker also.

But Darth Maul…It just worries me that.

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Ronster said:

Is a Kids Cartoon going to Kill all These Jedi and Sith apart from… Obiwan and Vader?

Oh you mean like its predecessor The Clone Wars?

Well don’t make fun I came across the planet Despayer which is from the Star Wars EU and the name was taken and possibly some plot also from a guy developing an adventure game (A bit like Monkey Island) also coincidently it was about stealing the death star plans.

And just when was this fan game being made? Despayre’s been around since at least 1993.

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Ok here is the link I found.

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=53398.0

Now… Despayre is obviously not used in the new film but the general plot is from the WIKI / WOOKIE on Despayer

in 1993 was it associated with the Death Star test Firing?

I have no idea about all this EU stuff I actually have never known about any of it really… I only found it the other day.

It seems to me like because the clone wars cartoon got cancelled they are trying to finish up the plot threads in this new Rebels show just in the OT era which would make more sense. Renewed interest and some budget I suppose. But it’s weird compared to cartoons when I was a kid. I mean yes characters used to die (although very rarely), but there was not any strange continuity constraint on them. And I think it’s just better to have fun cartoons for the kids without having to worry about connecting it to anything. Especially Big Budget movies.

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It’s not just for kids, though. Lots of adults watch it, and adults wonder about canonicity.

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Decent enough episode, some great space / space station in the sunlit clouds visuals. Decent enough story line although it didn’t have quite enough time to flush out. I did appreciate the call back to kallus and zebs episode from last year. So certainly not filler, but also certainly a mid season episode that isn’t as flashy.

JEDIT: AUTO CORRECT HAS NO LOVE FOR ZEB

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THANKS DOUBLE POSTS

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Man, I really love Thrawn. He’s intimidating and creepy as hell. Solid episode.

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Thrawn has just been pitch perfect. I’m so happy this is how they brought him back into the canon.

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So Thrawn basically gets own by childish tricks for the second time since the beginning of the season ? With a master plan that no one gets ? He seems pretty sure of himself each time but we never see in what way he puts the heroes in real danger. At least season 2’s Vader had a quick plan and within a single episode narrative destroyed half the rebel fleet. Quite disappointed by Thrawn. A weak vilain. I don’t like the way season 3 is written. Weakest season so far.

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How I am supposed to know in advance that the third season of a show I kinda like is going to disappoint me ?

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MalàStrana said:

So Thrawn basically gets own by childish tricks for the second time since the beginning of the season ? With a master plan that no one gets ? He seems pretty sure of himself each time but we never see in what way he puts the heroes in real danger. At least season 2’s Vader had a quick plan and within a single episode narrative destroyed half the rebel fleet. Quite disappointed by Thrawn. A weak vilain. I don’t like the way season 3 is written. Weakest season so far.

Makes sense to me if Thrawn is playing the long game.

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Yeah I understand that, but the fact is that twice in a row he could have easily destroyed one rebel captain and two Jedis as well as one of the most efficient crew of the rebellion and he doesn’t for a “master plan” we - as the audience - have no clue about (not even a hint of some kind, just “they shall see… they… shall… see” stuff). This is why I don’t like the way it’s written because there is no real contruction of the main season plot yet, things don’t add up so far, so it doesn’t work well (but it seems I’m the only one bothered by that). When Vader in season 2 or Tarkin in ANH lets the rebels go away we quickly know why; here it’s just “yeah they can go away, I want the entire fleet”. Thrawn reminds me of Maul (series version): (very) talkative and smart ass but in the end everything falls apart for every possible reason. But again I would be pleased the show proves me I was wrong.