I currently have no resources or storage available for scanning it, but the print is here and looks good.
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Poita, thanks so much for acquiring the print! When the opportunity comes to get it scanned, please preserve the full frame and not crop/adjust it to 2.35:1. I for one would like to see the full height of the anamorphic 35mm frame. From the various film cells I’ve studied, the 35mm print contains more headroom than the 2.35:1 Blu-Ray.
May I suggest sending it to MrNiceGuy or Litemaker for scanning?
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The runtime is 195 minutes, that is ten reels of 35mm, it is a beast. If you want to pony up the $700 in return freight, plus funds for the HDDs and scanning, then sure thing ;^) I’d be more than happy to send it to along to them 😃
In all seriousness I don’t currently have the 30TB storage to scan it here, and my scanner needs a new driver board, so it will be on the shelf anyway till that is replaced.
If the opportunity comes up to get it scanned, I will certainly get it done, at the moment it is going to sit in the archive for a while.
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Oh… that’s a shame, I’d have loved to have seen it. Even if there were only a few frames.
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The important thing is it will be archived. So that’s a good start. Just keep us updated, Poita. Thanks.
Well, as far as the original colours are concerned, I think our best bet for the moment is to refer to the original trailers. They’re documented on the Blu-ray I have. Give me a day or two, I’ll see what I can gather.
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I have stills of actual film frames from 35mm release prints and have seen a telecine version made from the release print, recorded inside a movie theatre, which shows deeper blues hinging slightly towards purple in the night scenes, and a golden-warm palette in the day scenes. Same as the 35mm film frames from Cameron’s ‘Aliens.’ I could upload the pictures here, but OT doesn’t have such a feature.
Here’s an imgur link - http://imgur.com/a/hkVPI
These are from the TC. Compare it with the BD.
Here’s another - http://imgur.com/a/OjZJ5
You can find many 35mm film cells on ebay.co.uk up for auction.
Just search - Titanic 35mm film cell and it will do.
So… to start off with, these regrades use the French trailer on the Blu-ray as reference.
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These ones use some assorted film cel scans I found on eBay.
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And these come from the telecine shots from the above post.
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Unfortunately some of the tests I ran came out with screwy results. These are the ones that didn’t completely fail.
I do have a copy of James Cameron’s Titanic Explorer, but I’m not sure how viable it is as a source, given it was released in November '98.
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The one’s matched to the the French trailer and the telecine look good in my opinion, but fix the black crush on the regrades, don’t darken the skies, it’s blocking the stars. The Blue-purple tint really transforms the image. It creates the feeling of the icy cold waters of the atlantic, which is gone in the BD.
Also, I would advise you to turn up the contrast in the night scenes for the telecine regrades as the blacks are looking grey on those. The Film cell regrades are blown-out, don’t use those.
Finally, a photochemical timing and 35mm projection colours cannot really be recreated on digital intermediate sourced blu-ray which was digitally graded. We need a 35mm print to get close to that visual aesthetic. The Blu-ray, though quite beautiful, has a new colour grade. It looks too proper to give that imperfect but organic look of the prints. But still, good work, keep it up!
Ultimately, it’s the TV spots that give the most accurate representation of the original release colours, I think.
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(6 and 10 have some lighting artifacts)
I haven’t made any contrast adjustments, so I guess those might be in order.
Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.
I have stills of actual film frames from 35mm release prints and have seen a telecine version made from the release print, recorded inside a movie theatre, which shows deeper blues hinging slightly towards purple in the night scenes, and a golden-warm palette in the day scenes. Same as the 35mm film frames from Cameron’s ‘Aliens.’ I could upload the pictures here, but OT doesn’t have such a feature.
Do any of you actually have a DVD/VHS of that telecine? If so I would love to have it. I had a VHS of that TC back in 1998, it was the first time I actually saw “Titanic”. Unfortunately the tape was lost over time and I’ve never found it again.
To answer an earlier question I’m currently still working on converting the Titanic “Academy Award” Screener tape over. Unfortunately it has macro vision protection on it, so I had to purchase a device that removes that as the tape is played back. This also means I had to find a suitable VHS deck that could play the tape into that device, and out to my DVD recorder. I’ve recently acquired two VCRs in good shape so I’m hoping to work on it this weekend.
Congratulations on the find of the 35mm print at an affordable price as well. If there is an a effort undertaken to scan/preserve it I will contribute to the pot.
Did you have a chance to examine the contents of the tape in detail?
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@cpalmer2k, Don’t have it anymore.
cpalmer, have you played the screener tape back on a TV? Have you noticed any differences?
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