Info: Star Trek HD Caps — Page 12

I’m sure they’d be understanding as long as a good case can be made. I believe considering the circumstances they’d allow it, even if on a temporary basis.

Anyone know why the first six films are all 1920x1088 and how to reduce/crop them back to 1080p?

Whoever grabbed the first six films didn’t do a very good job. Wrong RGB output range, 25 FPS, strange resolution…

The three TNG films only need to be slowed down to 23.976 FPS, the TOS films need more work done.

Seems to have been an issue with the way the streams were captured? I have seen it in other ts streams for TV shows. I’ve tried dropping them into multiAVCHD and the TNG era ones are indeed blu-ray compatible, though you’re right that the european standard framerate should be changed. Does the audio need a slight pitch re-adjustment or is it not adjusted in the first place? Also, the TNG era ones have an annoying Sky card before the paramount logo. Trimmed them off with Avidemux at key frames.

I want to try my hand at fixing the problems with these caps. I’ve never done anything like this before, but no one else is doing it, so why the hell not?

I’d have to slow the frame rate down from 25 FPS to 23.976 FPS (or 24, which is preferable?), fix the RGB input range to 16-235, convert it from 1920x1088 to 1920x1080 and convert it from a .ts file to a BD25 (is that an ISO?).

Anyone know the best programs do to this? I want to retain as much quality as possible, preferably without any or at least very minimal compression.

In the process, it’d be nice if I could attain the original theatrical LPCM tracks if possible.

That’s more wishful thinking and not wholly necessary though.

Shalashaska said:

I want to try my hand at fixing the problems with these caps. I’ve never done anything like this before, but no one else is doing it, so why the hell not?

I’d have to slow the frame rate down from 25 FPS to 23.976 FPS (or 24, which is preferable?), fix the RGB input range to 16-235, convert it from 1920x1088 to 1920x1080 and convert it from a .ts file to a BD25 (is that an ISO?).

Anyone know the best programs do to this? I want to retain as much quality as possible, preferably without any or at least very minimal compression.

Right. Well, some of these things are going to require re-encoding, so you don’t need to worry about “converting it” to BD25. You’re just going to want to output a high bitrate blu-ray compliant h/x264 video stream. That can be muxed to BD25 or mkv or whatever.

I have some thoughts on how to accomplish it, but others will probably have better ideas for more ideal, efficient, cheaper, easier, etc.

Alright, thanks.

If you don’t get any responses here, try asking in the “how to” section.

Whoever captured these must have gone out of their way to encode these in the wrong RGB range. I literally can’t find anything on Google that would help solve the problem with colours.

I have bit-perfect PCM LD audio tracks for theatrical TMP and TMP SLV… if only I would bother to pay for my HDD to be repaired. A member of the old AMPS forum was kind enough to rip them for me. Wish I could remember their name and thank them for their hard work (and repay a few debts).

FrankT said:

So where can I get these Sky HD caps?

The file names are listed a page or two back. They’ll be available on usenet for another year or so.

It’s $3 for 3 days of usenetserver.com. I think that’s how most of us got them. I believe they even give you a free 1 day trial the first time you use them. 10 MB/s for me there.

Best of luck. I’m certainly not going to be uploading them anywhere while they’re still available by those means. If people are struggling to find these next year, we should make sure they’re preserved. But for now I think I’m just going to point my finger to where they are easily found. 😃

towne32 said:

It’s $3 for 3 days of usenetserver.com. I think that’s how most of us got them. I believe they even give you a free 1 day trial the first time you use them. 10 MB/s for me there.

Best of luck. I’m certainly not going to be uploading them anywhere while they’re still available by those means. If people are struggling to find these next year, we should make sure they’re preserved. But for now I think I’m just going to point my finger to where they are easily found. 😃

This is how I got them as well. usenetserver.com was the best way to go for the price and for getting uploads that were so old. I’ve kept mine safe since I snagged them way back when too.

FrankT said:

I can’t… I can’t find them!

Go back a couple pages. The names and passwords to each file were posted here.

Search on NZBKing.com. They’re all up on there.

captainsolo said:

So since the HD caps are all flawed in some way, I guess it would be worthwhile to pick up the old SE DVDs and/or LDs for an alternative to the BDs? I can get the old DVDs for pretty cheap.

Nah. With a few settings changes in VLC, you can have them playing in 24 FPS looking their best. They’re definitely better than the DVDs/LDs, as well as the BDs, IMO. The problems we’ve been talking about here are more just things we want to fix so there won’t be any need for any settings changes + so they’ll be Blu-ray compatible.

They’re still the best options out there for most of the films.

I mean, I don’t know if I’d say they are better than the blu-rays; they just have different weaknesses. Admittedly I’ve only seen the TMP capture, but compared to the Blu-Ray, while the color timing is more in keeping with previous sources, and there is much more shadow detail, it is incredibly dirty with poor grain management and a TON of compression artifacts.

When I was working on my TMP fan edit, I was trying to combine the shadow detail and highlights from the broadcast, with a color corrected version of the blu-ray. Combined with a nice layer of grain over the final composite, it yielded the best qualities of both sources. Unfortunately, doing this for the whole movie would be way too time consuming because you need to transform the geometry of one print to match the other, which can change even in the same shot!

One reason I gave up and decided just to wait for a new transfer or a 4k Blu-ray ; )

Synnöve said:

I mean, I don’t know if I’d say they are better than the blu-rays; they just have different weaknesses. Admittedly I’ve only seen the TMP capture, but compared to the Blu-Ray, while the color timing is more in keeping with previous sources, and there is much more shadow detail, it is incredibly dirty with poor grain management and a TON of compression artifacts.

When I was working on my TMP fan edit, I was trying to combine the shadow detail and highlights from the broadcast, with a color corrected version of the blu-ray. Combined with a nice layer of grain over the final composite, it yielded the best qualities of both sources. Unfortunately, doing this for the whole movie would be way too time consuming because you need to transform the geometry of one print to match the other, which can change even in the same shot!

One reason I gave up and decided just to wait for a new transfer or a 4k Blu-ray ; )

TMP is one of the better Blu-rays, that was one of the few I think is worth upgrading for. I believe that was the only film outside of Khan to get a new transfer for the BD release.

I’d much rather have the more dirty analogue look of the SKY HD caps over the DNR abused Blu-rays of III, IV, V and VI though, to name a few. They all use the same transfers as the SKY HD caps, unlike TMP. The SKY HD versions for those are essentially just less manipulated and more film-like versions of the movies.

FrankT said:

I can’t be doing with this usenet thing, it drains my computer processing power massively.

It certainly shouldn’t. It’s basically a protocol from the 1980s. If those computers could handle it, yours can. 😛

Is it just extremely fast downloading that is draining your resources? It certainly maxes out the internet connections I’ve tried it on more than other download sources. Try setting a download cap or just using a different program. Are you using SABnzbd?