Modern SE Revisionism — Page 2

Fair enough. I just thought I'd point out how crazy it is that a movie with cgi from 1996/97 is playing as part of an 80's series.

Meanwhile, they're playing a 70mm print of Lifeforce this weekend, shot by Jedi's cinematographer Alan Hume.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaqeXj01ORE

I noticed that this official video uses GOUT, not blu-ray.

The video is from the 1995 release, how could it include SE changes?

pittrek said:

how could it include SE changes?

The video could be altered for the online posting.

There's a great 15-part documentary, made just a couple years ago, that TCM has been showing another installment of every Monday called The Story of Film: An Odyssey. Mark Cousins wrote, directed and narrated this amazing history of - what else - motion pictures, going all the way back to Edison and the Lumiere Brothers.

Empire is randomly referenced about 48 minutes into the very first chapter (the scene between Vader and Ozzel is given as a good example of the 180-degree rule from sixty years after it was first used) and then again, halfway through chapter five, talking about Lea Brackett's contributions to the Noir genre and how Luke finding out Vader's his father was a very noir idea in a very mainstream movie. Both instances could've been using the '04 master but I can't really tell since neither clip had changes (and my memory of the different color timings is spotty).

Chapter eleven, about pop culture exploding around the world in the 70's, covers The Exorcist, Jaws and then Star Wars in the last few minutes. The crawl is the '77 version, and the rest seems to be taken from the GOUT as well, so they must've cropped it to 16:9.

The entire 15-part series is up on Netflix, so if anyone has access they can give their opinion on where the clips are sourced from.

Fang Zei said:

There's a great 15-part documentary, made just a couple years ago, that TCM has been showing another installment of every Monday called The Story of Film: An Odyssey. Mark Cousins wrote, directed and narrated this amazing history of - what else - motion pictures, going all the way back to Edison and the Lumiere Brothers.

Empire is randomly referenced about 48 minutes into the very first chapter (the scene between Vader and Ozzel is given as a good example of the 180-degree rule from sixty years after it was first used) and then again, halfway through chapter five, talking about Lea Brackett's contributions to the Noir genre and how Luke finding out Vader's his father was a very noir idea in a very mainstream movie. Both instances could've been using the '04 master but I can't really tell since neither clip had changes (and my memory of the different color timings is spotty).

Chapter eleven, about pop culture exploding around the world in the 70's, covers The Exorcist, Jaws and then Star Wars in the last few minutes. The crawl is the '77 version, and the rest seems to be taken from the GOUT as well, so they must've cropped it to 16:9.

The entire 15-part series is up on Netflix, so if anyone has access they can give their opinion on where the clips are sourced from.

*sigh* This just serves to remind me of how much I miss TCM. 

doubleofive said:

*sigh* ILM...

 I propose a new term:

*sighLM*

Good to see a celebration of ILM. Thanks to their great creativity and hard work on making all these movies.

Team Negative1

Interestingly enough, I seem to remember a couple of months ago when they rolled out that digital HD release, there was a little ad that would come up from time to time on the Xfinity On Demand menu that appeared to be taken from the GOUT. There was a voiceover from that horribly cheerful lady who does those about how now the Star Wars saga is available to rent or own, and then it showed the Jedi mind trick scene from ANH in SD without the CGI droid buzzing around.

I was recently at a museum gift shop and found a book chronicling ILM's work. It basically glossed over everything pre-Jurassic Park in a few pages. There was one still from Star Wars- the Falcon sitting in the Death Star hangar- which may have been the SE. Then there was no more Star Wars mentions until the SE trilogy in 97, which included the '04 Jabba and detention cell set extension.

SilverWook said:

The original ILM coffee table book covered the early days up to about 1987.

There was a second book in the late 90s covering the digital era. Perhaps that's what you saw?

 This is a modern book, I believe for their 35th anniversary. It went up to at least Iron Man and maybe even The Avengers. The SE trilogy was one of the first full-length sections in the book.

In TFA, the lightsaber’s core sometimes becomes somewhat blue instead of white. This may be because in his effort to “stay true to the OT”, JJ imitated the SE lightsaber effects.

He should have tried new things instead of poorly imitating others…