Barely. He still broke the Bat and he still planned literally every phase of the plan even down to the time in which the bomb was going to explode. That’s like saying Vader is totally undermined by Palpatine. Just because both take orders from someone else doesn’t negate their accomplishments.
Exactly. People assume things about the Talia reveal that just aren’t the case. Bane didn’t just do it for Talia. Because he cried and loved her doesn’t make him any less of a bad ass or a clever villain.