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Dek Rollins
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25-Aug-2016, 8:09 PM

Lord Haseo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

…because Bane wasn’t portrayed in a similar way. Vader didn’t cry about Palpatine like Bane cried about Talia. Vader actually wanted to rule the galaxy. Bane didn’t actually have any goals for himself, he only cared about Talia. The entire film built up Bane: the self-righteous agent of judgement, and the finale gave us Bane: he-likes-a girl-and-that’s-his-entire-character.

There’s nothing that suggests that he didn’t believe in the tenets of the League of Shadows. People can do things for multiple reasons you know…

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

…but I think they did a great job at developing the Bruce/Selina Kyle relationship.

Lol. There was hardly a relationship at all.

Whatever you say man. Just please don’t tell me that Vicky Vale and Bruce’s relationship in Batman 89 is better. I don’t want to hear that shit lol

That’s not what I was saying. Though at least a romantic relationship was existent in the story in '89.

I wouldn’t call it romantic at all. Bruce fucks Vicky while she’s drunk and then after he stands her up she starts stalking him. Aside from the horrible premise for this “romance” Vicky and Bruce had absolutely no chemistry. At least Bruce and Selina could do a nice back and forth.

Like I said before, I’m not saying what you’re implying I said. In the story (whether it was well developed or not), there was a romantic relationship present.

And I wouldn’t say he just did her while she was drunk. That’s not what was implied in the film at all. They had a date, they liked each other, and they slept together/had sex. I will admit that the chemistry and development of the characters’ relationship wasn’t that great. But like I said before, the relationship was clearly existent in the story, regardless of how well it was developed.

In TDKR, I never realized there was even supposed to be some sort of relationship beyond mild friendship born out of working together, I guess.

In TDKR it just seemed like they pretty much said:

“Oh, yeah, if you didn’t notice, they have a relationship goin’ on outside of just speaking with each other. Y’know, because Batman and Catwoman have to be involved with each other, regardless of whether or not it was properly written into the story.”

And however you want to compare it with '89, I don’t care. In my head I was actually comparing it to the relationship between the same two characters in Batman Returns, which also actually existed, and made sense as a part of the story and character development.

All I can say is a disagree. You’re not really giving me anything besides “I don’t like it because reasons”

I’m giving you the reasons why I don’t like it. Did you want more than that? I don’t think the romantic relationship between them in TDKR was well done, mainly because it didn’t exist until the movie just kind of said that it happened.