…because Bane wasn’t portrayed in a similar way. Vader didn’t cry about Palpatine like Bane cried about Talia. Vader actually wanted to rule the galaxy. Bane didn’t actually have any goals for himself, he only cared about Talia. The entire film built up Bane: the self-righteous agent of judgement, and the finale gave us Bane: he-likes-a girl-and-that’s-his-entire-character.
There’s nothing that suggests that he didn’t believe in the tenets of the League of Shadows. People can do things for multiple reasons you know…
…but I think they did a great job at developing the Bruce/Selina Kyle relationship.
Lol. There was hardly a relationship at all.
Whatever you say man. Just please don’t tell me that Vicky Vale and Bruce’s relationship in Batman 89 is better. I don’t want to hear that shit lol
That’s not what I was saying. Though at least a romantic relationship was existent in the story in '89.
I wouldn’t call it romantic at all. Bruce fucks Vicky while she’s drunk and then after he stands her up she starts stalking him. Aside from the horrible premise for this “romance” Vicky and Bruce had absolutely no chemistry. At least Bruce and Selina could do a nice back and forth.
In TDKR it just seemed like they pretty much said:
“Oh, yeah, if you didn’t notice, they have a relationship goin’ on outside of just speaking with each other. Y’know, because Batman and Catwoman have to be involved with each other, regardless of whether or not it was properly written into the story.”
And however you want to compare it with '89, I don’t care. In my head I was actually comparing it to the relationship between the same two characters in Batman Returns, which also actually existed, and made sense as a part of the story and character development.
All I can say is a disagree. You’re not really giving me anything besides “I don’t like it because reasons”
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…because Bane wasn’t portrayed in a similar way. Vader didn’t cry about Palpatine like Bane cried about Talia. Vader actually wanted to rule the galaxy. Bane didn’t actually have any goals for himself, he only cared about Talia. The entire film built up Bane: the self-righteous agent of judgement, and the finale gave us Bane: he-likes-a girl-and-that’s-his-entire-character.
I felt it gave Bane an instant humanization and a heap more depth as a character. Once that whole flashback scenes ends you go from looking at Bane as a back breaking beast to a dedicated and selfless guy. I don’t think it undermined his character but added to it.
The decision to have Bane care about someone other than himself and the teachings of the League of Shadows doesn’t add to his character…it makes him into a character. Up until that point he’s a one dimensional bad guy but we see with that scene he isn’t completely a monster and endured a lot both in the present and past for someone he cared about. I guess depending on the story people don’t want villains with depth whether it is a bit of depth like in Bane’s case or someone who is more substantially layered like Kylo Ren.