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As far as I know the colors of the other two films do not have any major issues. BB suffers from low data rates as it is the same encode used for the HD-DVD. TDKR however looks brilliant.

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This is really cool. The BD is overcooked as anything. Looking forward to seeing this one!

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darthrush said:

…BB really shows the fact that it’s encoded from an HD-DVD.

Do you guys know any reasons for this? Why they haven’t released a “real bluray version”? I would’ve thought that at least the trilogy collection would be crisp all around. Hopefully we’ll see a more refined (4K?) trilogy before 2020. :E

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It could be a while before completion. I will be heading back to school in a few days which means less time to work on the project, but I’ll still be working on it when I can.

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The colors look a bit off in the pencil scene. It looks like it should be graded to more of a teal color, as per the screener, but seems to appear more blue after it is run through DrDre’s CC tool. This causes some inaccuracies in flesh tones as well as costume colors.

Here’s a comparison between the original scene and a correction from the BD I performed to show you what I’m talking about:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/181853

The “table scope” part is referring to the rotoscope and minor CC of the table from the screener correction, as the table appears to have been digitally altered for the Blu-ray. This caused unnatural grain in areas, and is the likely cause of the fringing near the table’s upper edge.

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To my eyes, the color correction tool still seems to do a better job for the overall image. The blue and green hues seem very close to me.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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Looking good so far. Maybe, you can show us a video clip.

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zxthehedgehog said:

The colors look a bit off in the pencil scene. It looks like it should be graded to more of a teal color, as per the screener, but seems to appear more blue after it is run through DrDre’s CC tool. This causes some inaccuracies in flesh tones as well as costume colors.

Here’s a comparison between the original scene and a correction from the BD I performed to show you what I’m talking about:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/181853

The “table scope” part is referring to the rotoscope and minor CC of the table from the screener correction, as the table appears to have been digitally altered for the Blu-ray. This caused unnatural grain in areas, and is the likely cause of the fringing near the table’s upper edge.

To be honest, I think your correction, while appealing, is pretty far of the mark, if the intent is to match the colors of the screener.

Bluray:

Screener:

CC tool + black level correction:

zxthehedgehog:

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It’s better, but it seems a touch a too bright to me. Although it is difficult to say what exactly the right brightness is, due to the inconstancy of the screener. The left always seems to be a little dark and right a little bright. The hue shifts are very slight, but I think I see what you mean.

Again, I’m curious to hear everyone else’s thoughts on this too.

Edit: After reviewing the comparison with screener and not just a side by side, it looks like the skin tones in the manual grade are missing a bit of the blues that the screener has.

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TheDarkestKnight said: After reviewing the comparison with screener and not just a side by side, it looks like the skin tones in the manual grade are missing a bit of the blues that the screener has.

Well, photochemical timing with dyes and digital grading are very different from each other. So, it’s almost impossible for a digital regrade to achieve the same results as a photochemical one.

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I like the slightly higher contrast, but as TheDarkestKnight said, I also think it’s too bright.

she/her
mwah

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Papai2013 said:

But sadly, since 2008, Full Screen DVD production has ceased.

Just curious, is this a fact? 2008 or 2009?

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Due to school, work is proceeding at a much slower rate than I would like. The prologue scenes also take the longest to correct since other sources are being composited in. As of right now, roughly 4 minutes of the film have been color corrected and matched to the blu-ray framing.

I hope to get much more done during the Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks of the school year. The prologue right now is almost identical to the BB_Prologue, save the framing has been changed. Once I have moved on and corrected some of the 35mm shots I will try to upload some comparison stills and clips.

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TheDarkestKnight said:

Due to school, work is proceeding at a much slower rate than I would like. The prologue scenes also take the longest to correct since other sources are being composited in. As of right now, roughly 4 minutes of the film have been color corrected and matched to the blu-ray framing.

I hope to get much more done during the Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks of the school year. The prologue right now is almost identical to the BB_Prologue, save the framing has been changed. Once I have moved on and corrected some of the 35mm shots I will try to upload some comparison stills and clips.

Sounds awesome!!!

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