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Xbox Next/Xenon/360 - Will be the first out, but also possibly underpowered. It seems Microsoft is going to base it's features around online. Instead of a harddrive, all your information will be saved in an account on Microsoft's servers. With this, you will be able to 'customize' your games buy buying/downloading extras, i.e. cars, maps, weapons, cheats, ect. All this will be saved into your account, along with music and other media. Also, they're guessing that games will still come on regular DVD-9s. Most people are expecting it to be the first system out of the gates, arriving by Xmas 2005. I don't think I like really any of these decisions, but I'll probably end up getting one just for Halo 3.
PS3 - Supposedly, Sony's "cell" processor will operate at well over 4 ghz. The disc drive will utilize Blu-Ray technology. Both of these outclass the Xbox Next's current specs. If they can keep the cost down and the workmanship up, I think this will be the system to beat, depending on how well Microsoft handles its head start.
Nintendo Revolution - While the specs of the unit aren't really known, apparently Nintendo is going with 'buttonless' controllers, which instead use a touch screen. No shoulder buttons, no analog sticks - just a screen. Not sure I like this idea, but I haven't really liked any of Nintendo's decisions for quite some time. Unless Nintendo can pull a rabit out of its hat, I think they'll get crushed and this will be their last console.
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Originally posted by: Windexed
Has anybody read the new Game Informer? They had a pretty nice article on what to expect from next-gen systems. Here's what the next-gen console war looks like to me (feel free to interject or correct me):
Nintendo Revolution - While the specs of the unit aren't really known, apparently Nintendo is going with 'buttonless' controllers, which instead use a touch screen. No shoulder buttons, no analog sticks - just a screen. Not sure I like this idea, but I haven't really liked any of Nintendo's decisions for quite some time. Unless Nintendo can pull a rabit out of its hat, I think they'll get crushed and this will be their last console.
Has anybody read the new Game Informer? They had a pretty nice article on what to expect from next-gen systems. Here's what the next-gen console war looks like to me (feel free to interject or correct me):
Nintendo Revolution - While the specs of the unit aren't really known, apparently Nintendo is going with 'buttonless' controllers, which instead use a touch screen. No shoulder buttons, no analog sticks - just a screen. Not sure I like this idea, but I haven't really liked any of Nintendo's decisions for quite some time. Unless Nintendo can pull a rabit out of its hat, I think they'll get crushed and this will be their last console.
I have no idea where the shell this came from, because I have seen absolutely no official news that says anything such. Plus, the Revolution will have to have at least as many functions as a Gamecube controler, since it's backward's compatible. It is also centering around WiFi technology, acording to Iwata himself. Nintendo's interest in attracting new customers doesn't mean their going to alienate their current (huge) fanbase. That would be beyond stupid, borderline insane.
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My first sentence referred to the new Game Informer which is where the majority of this information came from.
Anyway, I have to disagree a bit. Nintendo's console fan base is shrinking to tiny proportions. The GC (which I own and love) is a distant third behind the other two, and the only reason it has stayed in the game is the $99 price point. The Revolution controllers will be totally touch screen. It's been confirmed by insiders. To me, this signals that Nintendo hasn't learned its lesson, and that is that they need to cater to the needs of gamers, rather than dictate to consumers what consumers want. I see the touch screen as little more than a lame gimmick to differentiate their console from the others, when what they should be doing is conducting market research to see what exactly it is people want. Just my opinion.
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I know I'd buy one!
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Originally posted by: Windexed
My first sentence referred to the new Game Informer which is where the majority of this information came from.
Granted, but Gameinformer has been wrong before.
Supposed insiders have said all kinds of things that never came to fruition. And besides it is backwards compatible with Gamecube games, which means that it must have a controller that's at least as functional as the GC's.
To me, this signals that Nintendo hasn't learned its lesson, and that is that they need to cater to the needs of gamers, rather than dictate to consumers what consumers want. I see the touch screen as little more than a lame gimmick to differentiate their console from the others, when what they should be doing is conducting market research to see what exactly it is people want. Just my opinion.
My first sentence referred to the new Game Informer which is where the majority of this information came from.
Granted, but Gameinformer has been wrong before.
Anyway, I have to disagree a bit. Nintendo's console fan base is shrinking to tiny proportions. The GC (which I own and love) is a distant third behind the other two, and the only reason it has stayed in the game is the $99 price point. But that is largely because the public is drawn more towards "hip" mature games, and masterpieces like Metroid Prime and Eternal Darkness get overlooked because of "kiddy" games like Mario Sunshine and Paper Mario 2, all because Nintendo refuses to take the shock value route. The other problem is that 3rd party developers seem to have an alergic reaction to the GC, despite it's reportedly easy development structure and PS2 busting power and Durability. (Does anyone really believe that the PS2 version of RE4 will look as good or be so seamless?)
The Revolution controllers will be totally touch screen. It's been confirmed by insiders.
The Revolution controllers will be totally touch screen. It's been confirmed by insiders.
Supposed insiders have said all kinds of things that never came to fruition. And besides it is backwards compatible with Gamecube games, which means that it must have a controller that's at least as functional as the GC's.
To me, this signals that Nintendo hasn't learned its lesson, and that is that they need to cater to the needs of gamers, rather than dictate to consumers what consumers want. I see the touch screen as little more than a lame gimmick to differentiate their console from the others, when what they should be doing is conducting market research to see what exactly it is people want. Just my opinion.
I agree, but as long as the touch-screen controller games don't dominate the console and traditional games get the shaft, I say "let Nintendo try to expand their fanbase"... Besides, even if the DS and revolution flop, there is allways the Gameboy to fall back on.
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Originally posted by: Count Dushku
Technology has continually grown, yes? Ok, someone tell me...why doesn't Nintendo release a system that can play NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA, and Nintendo64 games? It would have a built in software library, drive the cost of old consoles either up or down, and be nothing but total profit! All these systems use cartridges...why not have 2 cartridge slots, one for Gameboy/GBA, the other for the other systems that would be able to adjust it's size and (the thing that reads) whenever a different type of cartridge is in there? Add 4 controller slots, some snazzy cover designs (retro, SNES, or 64ish), and have it all come up via AV cables?
I know I'd buy one!
Technology has continually grown, yes? Ok, someone tell me...why doesn't Nintendo release a system that can play NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA, and Nintendo64 games? It would have a built in software library, drive the cost of old consoles either up or down, and be nothing but total profit! All these systems use cartridges...why not have 2 cartridge slots, one for Gameboy/GBA, the other for the other systems that would be able to adjust it's size and (the thing that reads) whenever a different type of cartridge is in there? Add 4 controller slots, some snazzy cover designs (retro, SNES, or 64ish), and have it all come up via AV cables?
I know I'd buy one!
Somehow, I don't think an adjustable cartrage slot would work, but the rest of the concept is a good idea. Ironically my um... uninformed friends... when I first heard of the play station they told me it was a super system that could play any cartridge game ever made, and that Gameboy games could be inserted into it's controller.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I agree, but as long as the touch-screen controller games don't dominate the console and traditional games get the shaft, I say "let Nintendo try to expand their fanbase"... Besides, even if the DS and revolution flop, there is allways the Gameboy to fall back on.
Originally posted by: Windexed
My first sentence referred to the new Game Informer which is where the majority of this information came from.
Granted, but Gameinformer has been wrong before.
Yes they have, but the information came from insiders, ones with DEVELOPEMENT KITS from Nintendo.
Supposed insiders have said all kinds of things that never came to fruition. And besides it is backwards compatible with Gamecube games, which means that it must have a controller that's at least as functional as the GC's.
Well they said that there will be numerous ways to configure what is on the screen, but if you want to play GC games you will be using the touch screen. There won't be any buttons. Don't believe it? That's fine, just don't be surprised in two months when everything I've said is confirmed at E3.
To me, this signals that Nintendo hasn't learned its lesson, and that is that they need to cater to the needs of gamers, rather than dictate to consumers what consumers want. I see the touch screen as little more than a lame gimmick to differentiate their console from the others, when what they should be doing is conducting market research to see what exactly it is people want. Just my opinion.
My first sentence referred to the new Game Informer which is where the majority of this information came from.
Granted, but Gameinformer has been wrong before.
Yes they have, but the information came from insiders, ones with DEVELOPEMENT KITS from Nintendo.
Anyway, I have to disagree a bit. Nintendo's console fan base is shrinking to tiny proportions. The GC (which I own and love) is a distant third behind the other two, and the only reason it has stayed in the game is the $99 price point.
But that is largely because the public is drawn more towards "hip" mature games, and masterpieces like Metroid Prime and Eternal Darkness get overlooked because of "kiddy" games like Mario Sunshine and Paper Mario 2, all because Nintendo refuses to take the shock value route. The other problem is that 3rd party developers seem to have an alergic reaction to the GC, despite it's reportedly easy development structure and PS2 busting power and Durability. (Does anyone really believe that the PS2 version of RE4 will look as good or be so seamless?)
This is all true, but a problem nonetheless.
The Revolution controllers will be totally touch screen. It's been confirmed by insiders.
But that is largely because the public is drawn more towards "hip" mature games, and masterpieces like Metroid Prime and Eternal Darkness get overlooked because of "kiddy" games like Mario Sunshine and Paper Mario 2, all because Nintendo refuses to take the shock value route. The other problem is that 3rd party developers seem to have an alergic reaction to the GC, despite it's reportedly easy development structure and PS2 busting power and Durability. (Does anyone really believe that the PS2 version of RE4 will look as good or be so seamless?)
This is all true, but a problem nonetheless.
The Revolution controllers will be totally touch screen. It's been confirmed by insiders.
Supposed insiders have said all kinds of things that never came to fruition. And besides it is backwards compatible with Gamecube games, which means that it must have a controller that's at least as functional as the GC's.
Well they said that there will be numerous ways to configure what is on the screen, but if you want to play GC games you will be using the touch screen. There won't be any buttons. Don't believe it? That's fine, just don't be surprised in two months when everything I've said is confirmed at E3.
To me, this signals that Nintendo hasn't learned its lesson, and that is that they need to cater to the needs of gamers, rather than dictate to consumers what consumers want. I see the touch screen as little more than a lame gimmick to differentiate their console from the others, when what they should be doing is conducting market research to see what exactly it is people want. Just my opinion.
I agree, but as long as the touch-screen controller games don't dominate the console and traditional games get the shaft, I say "let Nintendo try to expand their fanbase"... Besides, even if the DS and revolution flop, there is allways the Gameboy to fall back on.
Well, I don't think Nintendo as a 'company' will go under, just that they will get out of the console market. And I just see Nintendo further alienating people with the Revolution. Instead of just giving gamers a die hard gaming system with all the options they want Nintendo falls back on gimmicks that attract people soley on a novelty basis.
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It comes with a demo for Metroid Prime Hunters, which will be extremely sweet if the controls are tightened up a bit before release.
Other than those, the only DS app I've played is Feel the Magic XY/XX, which is fun as cheese, but it is almost as good an argument against stylus gameplay as it is for it.
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BTW, I picked up my PSP yesterday and damn is that thing sweet.
I'm playing Metal Gear Ac!d right now, its taking me a while to get used to the card mechanics, but I'm enjoying it so far(except for the fact that there is no David Hayter or voice acting period
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BTW, I just realized that this thread of yours has really racked up the pages, I've never had a thread I created last that long.