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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

He could have sensed it but the fact that would omit such a thing from Tarkin when the topic of her resisting the mind probe is improbable. Also it seems Vader was talking to himself when he said the Force was strong with Luke. The TIE Pilots wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how much an advantage being Force Sensitive could be in such a circumstance.

Just how would such a pointless information help Tarkin? The reason for her resistance to the probe is inconsequential and it wouldn’t change absolutely anything. If anyone had any skill to break her that way, it was Vader. He clearly couldn’t do it even if he knew she was force sensitive. Reporting the details and reason for his failure to Tarkin makes no difference or sense. Asking Tarkin for an advice on a matter (force) that he had no clue about (and which was actually Vader’s expertise) makes even less sense. Above all, in the end Tarkin had his own method that was inconsequential to the force.

What yhwx said

What I replied to him.

and it would be foolish not to alert Tarkin of someone who could be a powerful ally if they could be turned. Hell, Vader even tells Luke if he doesn’t turn to the Dark Side that he’ll try to turn Leia in ROTJ.

Powerful ally? She seems pretty worthless in ANH from that perspective. There were billions of other highly force sensitive people across the galaxy. If Emperor would be into such allies, there was far better material out there (plus ones that might actually like Empire to begin with). In ROTJ Vader tells that to Luke simply to make him angry. We don’t know her force potential anyway. It could be way below Luke.

And besides, Tarkin didn’t seem to give a shit about that kind of things. Another reason why conveying such a pointless information to him would be, well, pointless.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

That’s not what is stated in the film. Again, you’re projecting headcanon onto what actually happened in the film.

What is stated in the film is a temporary tactical decision in the battle, not the purpose of the fleet’s presence (before the battle).

From the script.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the huge
window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We’re in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We’re not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He has something special
planned for them. We only need to keep them from escaping.

Exactly supports what I said… it is a battle related tactic not purpose of fleet’s presence.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

He could have sensed it but the fact that would omit such a thing from Tarkin when the topic of her resisting the mind probe is improbable. Also it seems Vader was talking to himself when he said the Force was strong with Luke. The TIE Pilots wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how much an advantage being Force Sensitive could be in such a circumstance.

Just how would such a pointless information help Tarkin? The reason for her resistance to the probe is inconsequential and it wouldn’t change absolutely anything. If anyone had any skill to break her that way, it was Vader. He clearly couldn’t do it even if he knew she was force sensitive. Reporting the details and reason for his failure to Tarkin makes no difference or sense. Asking Tarkin for an advice on a matter (force) that he had no clue about (and which was actually Vader’s expertise) makes even less sense. Above all, in the end Tarkin had his own method that was inconsequential to the force.

What yhwx said

What I replied to him.

Having someone who is strong in the Force like Leia is is something important. If he did sense her it was something he at least could have mentioned in passing.

That is assuming she was exceptionally strong. She could be simply strong and therefore nothing special. And we have been over why conveying this kind of pointless information was pointless.

and it would be foolish not to alert Tarkin of someone who could be a powerful ally if they could be turned. Hell, Vader even tells Luke if he doesn’t turn to the Dark Side that he’ll try to turn Leia in ROTJ.

Powerful ally? She seems pretty worthless in ANH from that perspective.

A Skywalker? Worthless? What?

Even great families have “bad apples”. It is nature.

There were billions of other highly force sensitive people across the galaxy.

Is there a canon source you can cite that says there are billions of Force Sensitives that are strong in the Force?

The source is Lucas himself (during OT era).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

And even if they are strong I doubt they would have the potential that is akin to a Skywalker.

Supporting midichlorians idea, aren’t you? Disgusting…

If Emperor would be into such allies, there was far better material out there (plus ones that might actually like Empire to begin with).

It still wouldn’t hurt to at least try to turn her like he tried with Luke. Also let’s not forget that Darth Vader was once a Jedi Knight 😉

Again assumption that she was something exceptional.

In ROTJ Vader tells that to Luke simply to make him angry.

Fair enough but if Luke were killed or taken out of the picture turning Leia would be the next best thing.

Again assumption that she was something exceptional.

We don’t know her force potential anyway. It could be way below Luke.

They’re twins…

Again assumption that she was something exceptional. Another argument that makes you look like you support midichlorians idea.

And besides, Tarkin didn’t seem to give a shit about that kind of things. Another reason why conveying such a pointless information to him would be, well, pointless.

There’s nothing in STAR WARS that suggests he dismisses the Force outright. He is incredulous to believe that Obi-Wan is alive and thinks Vader is the last of their religion but nothing more.

Well there is certainly way more evidence that he didn’t give a shit. Because there is none that he would possibly do.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

That’s not what is stated in the film. Again, you’re projecting headcanon onto what actually happened in the film.

What is stated in the film is a temporary tactical decision in the battle, not the purpose of the fleet’s presence (before the battle).

From the script.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the huge
window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We’re in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We’re not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He has something special
planned for them. We only need to keep them from escaping.

Exactly supports what I said… it is a battle related tactic not purpose of fleet’s presence.

There’s nothing in the script that says that the fleet is there to protect the Death Star but what is in the script indicates that they’re there to stop the Rebels from escaping. Just admit you’re wrong dude.

Don’t be ridiculous. You are taking it out of context. You simply don’t understand the meaning of the scene. And you don’t understand what is the context of “We only need to keep them from escaping”.

I will explain it to you again (for the third time, this one is last). The scene conveys what was a tactical order for the fleet during the battle (portion of it anyway, as TIE fighter were attacking and later trying to prevent rebel ships from entering Death Star). It has nothing to do with overall purpose of fleet’s presence before the battle.

ImperialScum’s arguments break my brain.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

He could have sensed it but the fact that would omit such a thing from Tarkin when the topic of her resisting the mind probe is improbable. Also it seems Vader was talking to himself when he said the Force was strong with Luke. The TIE Pilots wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how much an advantage being Force Sensitive could be in such a circumstance.

Just how would such a pointless information help Tarkin? The reason for her resistance to the probe is inconsequential and it wouldn’t change absolutely anything. If anyone had any skill to break her that way, it was Vader. He clearly couldn’t do it even if he knew she was force sensitive. Reporting the details and reason for his failure to Tarkin makes no difference or sense. Asking Tarkin for an advice on a matter (force) that he had no clue about (and which was actually Vader’s expertise) makes even less sense. Above all, in the end Tarkin had his own method that was inconsequential to the force.

What yhwx said

What I replied to him.

Having someone who is strong in the Force like Leia is is something important. If he did sense her it was something he at least could have mentioned in passing.

That is assuming she was exceptionally strong. She could be simply strong and therefore nothing special. And we have been over why conveying this kind of pointless information was pointless.

“The Force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it…my sister has it” no where in that conversation where Luke says “You have a strong connection to the Force but not as strong as mine”. Also like I said before they’re twins; it wouldn’t make any sense if one ended up being stronger in the Force than the other. Finally Leia had to be as strong because she is the “other” Yoda was speaking of. I didn’t hear Obi-Wan saying she was inferior in terms of her potential. It’s not an assumuption like the ones you’ve been making; what I’m saying actually has merit.

Well I didn’t hear Luke saying “you are as strong as I am”. He simply said he has the power too, no mention of magnitude. I didn’t hear Yoda saying “there is another, just as strong” either. It is your assumption.

There were billions of other highly force sensitive people across the galaxy.

Is there a canon source you can cite that says there are billions of Force Sensitives that are strong in the Force?

The source is Lucas himself (during OT era).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

A majority of the ideas he had at the time didn’t come to fruition. If anything you should be trying to pull something from TCW.

I don’t pull anything from crap material. The only thing that matters is OT.

And even if they are strong I doubt they would have the potential that is akin to a Skywalker.

Supporting midichlorians idea, aren’t you? Disgusting…

…

I think it’s safe to say you’re full on trolling.

Unfortunately I am not. You are supporting midichlorians. Equal power among twins is basically what midichlorians would be about.

And besides, Tarkin didn’t seem to give a shit about that kind of things. Another reason why conveying such a pointless information to him would be, well, pointless.

There’s nothing in STAR WARS that suggests he dismisses the Force outright. He is incredulous to believe that Obi-Wan is alive and thinks Vader is the last of their religion but nothing more.

Well there is certainly way more evidence that he didn’t give a shit. Because there is none that he would possibly do.

What evidence?

ANH.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

That’s not what is stated in the film. Again, you’re projecting headcanon onto what actually happened in the film.

What is stated in the film is a temporary tactical decision in the battle, not the purpose of the fleet’s presence (before the battle).

From the script.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the huge
window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We’re in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We’re not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He has something special
planned for them. We only need to keep them from escaping.

Exactly supports what I said… it is a battle related tactic not purpose of fleet’s presence.

There’s nothing in the script that says that the fleet is there to protect the Death Star but what is in the script indicates that they’re there to stop the Rebels from escaping. Just admit you’re wrong dude.

Don’t be ridiculous. You are taking it out of context. You simply don’t understand the meaning of the scene. And you don’t understand what is the context of “We only need to keep them from escaping”.

I will explain it to you again (for the third time, this one is last). The scene conveys what a tactical order for the fleet was during the battle (portion of it anyway, as TIE fighter were attacking and later trying to prevent rebel ships from entering Death Star). It has nothing to do with overall purpose of fleet’s presence before the battle.

I don’t care about your headcanon. Either pull something directly from the film or don’t respond. I’m tired of your half assed rationalizations.

I don’t have headcanon. I only have the truth.

The “We only need to keep them from escaping” being a tactical battle decision is part of the script/film. “TIE fighters protecting Death Star by trying to prevent rebel ships from entering it” is also part of the script/film.

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

ImperialScum’s arguments break my brain.

Are you even reading any of this? I’m not bothering because at least 50% of it is “I’m the truth.” Try to guess which 50%.

His arguments basically boils down to:

• Billions of people in the galaxy are Force sensitive
• Leia isn’t that strong with the force
• Vader doesn’t have to tell Tarkin & Co. that Leia is Force sensitive, if he even noticed
• Ewoks were used as a distraction
• ImperialScum is the One Single Truth

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

He could have sensed it but the fact that would omit such a thing from Tarkin when the topic of her resisting the mind probe is improbable. Also it seems Vader was talking to himself when he said the Force was strong with Luke. The TIE Pilots wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how much an advantage being Force Sensitive could be in such a circumstance.

Just how would such a pointless information help Tarkin? The reason for her resistance to the probe is inconsequential and it wouldn’t change absolutely anything. If anyone had any skill to break her that way, it was Vader. He clearly couldn’t do it even if he knew she was force sensitive. Reporting the details and reason for his failure to Tarkin makes no difference or sense. Asking Tarkin for an advice on a matter (force) that he had no clue about (and which was actually Vader’s expertise) makes even less sense. Above all, in the end Tarkin had his own method that was inconsequential to the force.

What yhwx said

What I replied to him.

Having someone who is strong in the Force like Leia is is something important. If he did sense her it was something he at least could have mentioned in passing.

That is assuming she was exceptionally strong. She could be simply strong and therefore nothing special. And we have been over why conveying this kind of pointless information was pointless.

“The Force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it…my sister has it” no where in that conversation where Luke says “You have a strong connection to the Force but not as strong as mine”. Also like I said before they’re twins; it wouldn’t make any sense if one ended up being stronger in the Force than the other. Finally Leia had to be as strong because she is the “other” Yoda was speaking of. I didn’t hear Obi-Wan saying she was inferior in terms of her potential. It’s not an assumuption like the ones you’ve been making; what I’m saying actually has merit.

Well I didn’t hear Luke saying “you are as strong as I am”. He simply said he has the power too, no mention of magnitude. I didn’t hear Yoda saying “there is another, just as strong” either. It is your assumption.

“At the center of the movie is a lot of exposition, it’s a lot of explaining what has happened, and why things are the way they are. In this particular case, there is a whole issue of Luke’s sister, and you know, the fact that they were twins. Which is an element that has to be revealed, which comes in later, in terms of who is the ‘other’ that was talked about in Empire Strikes Back. And how could that person become as powerful as Luke? Well obviously if they were twins, then if she were trained, then, she has the same abilities as Luke has. That becomes an important issue, especially in terms of resolving all the love triangles.” - George Lucas, ROTJ DVD Commentary.

YOU’RE WRONG

Well according to “original” Lucas everyone can have the same abilities if they just train hard enough.

And besides, Tarkin didn’t seem to give a shit about that kind of things. Another reason why conveying such a pointless information to him would be, well, pointless.

There’s nothing in STAR WARS that suggests he dismisses the Force outright. He is incredulous to believe that Obi-Wan is alive and thinks Vader is the last of their religion but nothing more.

Well there is certainly way more evidence that he didn’t give a shit. Because there is none that he would possibly do.

What evidence?

ANH.

Care to provide a line of dialogue?

Let’s take Lucas’ “everyone can do it”. I am sure if he was into that kind of stuff he would pick some of the crew who happened to be exceptionally strong in the force and make them “powerful” allies.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

That’s not what is stated in the film. Again, you’re projecting headcanon onto what actually happened in the film.

What is stated in the film is a temporary tactical decision in the battle, not the purpose of the fleet’s presence (before the battle).

From the script.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the huge
window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We’re in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We’re not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He has something special
planned for them. We only need to keep them from escaping.

Exactly supports what I said… it is a battle related tactic not purpose of fleet’s presence.

There’s nothing in the script that says that the fleet is there to protect the Death Star but what is in the script indicates that they’re there to stop the Rebels from escaping. Just admit you’re wrong dude.

Don’t be ridiculous. You are taking it out of context. You simply don’t understand the meaning of the scene. And you don’t understand what is the context of “We only need to keep them from escaping”.

I will explain it to you again (for the third time, this one is last). The scene conveys what a tactical order for the fleet was during the battle (portion of it anyway, as TIE fighter were attacking and later trying to prevent rebel ships from entering Death Star). It has nothing to do with overall purpose of fleet’s presence before the battle.

I don’t care about your headcanon. Either pull something directly from the film or don’t respond. I’m tired of your half assed rationalizations.

The “We only need to keep them from escaping” being a tactical battle decision is part of the script/film. “TIE fighters protecting Death Star by trying to prevent rebel ships from entering it” is also part of the script/film.

For one the TIE’s more than likely came from the Death Star. Secondly, that has nothing to do with the Star Destroyers and the Super Star Destroyers keeping the Rebels from escaping.

I give up on you. Last time was the last time.

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

ImperialScum’s arguments break my brain.

Are you even reading any of this? I’m not bothering because at least 50% of it is “I’m the truth.” Try to guess which 50%.

His arguments basically boils down to:

1. Billions of people in the galaxy are Force sensitive
2. Leia isn’t that strong with the force
3. Vader doesn’t have to tell Tarkin & Co. that Leia is Force sensitive, if he even noticed
4. Ewoks were used as a distraction
5. ImperialScum is the One Single Truth

1. Correct, according to Lucas
2. I am not saying that. I am just saying you cannot make empty assumptions that she was or wasn’t.
3. Correct. Her force sensitivity was irrelevant in the particular situation in ANH.
4. Correct. Though Ewoks did contribute significantly, rebels did the main part.
5. Correct.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

He could have sensed it but the fact that would omit such a thing from Tarkin when the topic of her resisting the mind probe is improbable. Also it seems Vader was talking to himself when he said the Force was strong with Luke. The TIE Pilots wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how much an advantage being Force Sensitive could be in such a circumstance.

Just how would such a pointless information help Tarkin? The reason for her resistance to the probe is inconsequential and it wouldn’t change absolutely anything. If anyone had any skill to break her that way, it was Vader. He clearly couldn’t do it even if he knew she was force sensitive. Reporting the details and reason for his failure to Tarkin makes no difference or sense. Asking Tarkin for an advice on a matter (force) that he had no clue about (and which was actually Vader’s expertise) makes even less sense. Above all, in the end Tarkin had his own method that was inconsequential to the force.

What yhwx said

What I replied to him.

Having someone who is strong in the Force like Leia is is something important. If he did sense her it was something he at least could have mentioned in passing.

That is assuming she was exceptionally strong. She could be simply strong and therefore nothing special. And we have been over why conveying this kind of pointless information was pointless.

“The Force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it…my sister has it” no where in that conversation where Luke says “You have a strong connection to the Force but not as strong as mine”. Also like I said before they’re twins; it wouldn’t make any sense if one ended up being stronger in the Force than the other. Finally Leia had to be as strong because she is the “other” Yoda was speaking of. I didn’t hear Obi-Wan saying she was inferior in terms of her potential. It’s not an assumuption like the ones you’ve been making; what I’m saying actually has merit.

Well I didn’t hear Luke saying “you are as strong as I am”. He simply said he has the power too, no mention of magnitude. I didn’t hear Yoda saying “there is another, just as strong” either. It is your assumption.

“At the center of the movie is a lot of exposition, it’s a lot of explaining what has happened, and why things are the way they are. In this particular case, there is a whole issue of Luke’s sister, and you know, the fact that they were twins. Which is an element that has to be revealed, which comes in later, in terms of who is the ‘other’ that was talked about in Empire Strikes Back. And how could that person become as powerful as Luke? Well obviously if they were twins, then if she were trained, then, she has the same abilities as Luke has. That becomes an important issue, especially in terms of resolving all the love triangles.” - George Lucas, ROTJ DVD Commentary.

YOU’RE WRONG

Well according to “original” Lucas everyone can have the same abilities if they just train hard enough.

And besides, Tarkin didn’t seem to give a shit about that kind of things. Another reason why conveying such a pointless information to him would be, well, pointless.

There’s nothing in STAR WARS that suggests he dismisses the Force outright. He is incredulous to believe that Obi-Wan is alive and thinks Vader is the last of their religion but nothing more.

Well there is certainly way more evidence that he didn’t give a shit. Because there is none that he would possibly do.

What evidence?

ANH.

Care to provide a line of dialogue?

Let’s take Lucas’ “everyone can do it”. I am sure if he was into that kind of stuff he would pick some of the crew who happened to be exceptionally strong in the force and make them “powerful” allies.

Nope, don’t accept Lucas.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

That’s not what is stated in the film. Again, you’re projecting headcanon onto what actually happened in the film.

What is stated in the film is a temporary tactical decision in the battle, not the purpose of the fleet’s presence (before the battle).

From the script.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the huge
window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We’re in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We’re not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He has something special
planned for them. We only need to keep them from escaping.

Exactly supports what I said… it is a battle related tactic not purpose of fleet’s presence.

There’s nothing in the script that says that the fleet is there to protect the Death Star but what is in the script indicates that they’re there to stop the Rebels from escaping. Just admit you’re wrong dude.

Don’t be ridiculous. You are taking it out of context. You simply don’t understand the meaning of the scene. And you don’t understand what is the context of “We only need to keep them from escaping”.

I will explain it to you again (for the third time, this one is last). The scene conveys what a tactical order for the fleet was during the battle (portion of it anyway, as TIE fighter were attacking and later trying to prevent rebel ships from entering Death Star). It has nothing to do with overall purpose of fleet’s presence before the battle.

I don’t care about your headcanon. Either pull something directly from the film or don’t respond. I’m tired of your half assed rationalizations.

The “We only need to keep them from escaping” being a tactical battle decision is part of the script/film. “TIE fighters protecting Death Star by trying to prevent rebel ships from entering it” is also part of the script/film.

For one the TIE’s more than likely came from the Death Star. Secondly, that has nothing to do with the Star Destroyers and the Super Star Destroyers keeping the Rebels from escaping.

I give up on you. Last time was the last time.

Now it’s time for us to give up on you.

imperialscum said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

ImperialScum’s arguments break my brain.

Are you even reading any of this? I’m not bothering because at least 50% of it is “I’m the truth.” Try to guess which 50%.

His arguments basically boils down to:

1. Billions of people in the galaxy are Force sensitive
2. Leia isn’t that strong with the force
3. Vader doesn’t have to tell Tarkin & Co. that Leia is Force sensitive, if he even noticed
4. Ewoks were used as a distraction
5. ImperialScum is the One Single Truth

1. Correct, according to Lucas
2. I am not saying that. I am just saying you cannot make empty assumptions that she was or wasn’t.
3. Correct. Her force sensitivity was irrelevant in the particular situation in ANH.
4. Correct. Though Ewoks did contribute significantly, rebels did the main part.
5. Correct.

Nope, you aren’t truth. The only you are is pain to everyone here and a troll with a massive ego.

yhwx said:

Nope, you aren’t truth.

Well technically I am just an interface between humans and the truth.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Well according to “original” Lucas everyone can have the same abilities if they just train hard enough.

Not canon

Well “original” Lucas is definitely more canon than “special edition” Lucas.

imperialscum said:

yhwx said:

Nope, you aren’t truth.

You got me there my friend. I am technically just an interface between the humans and the truth.

You’re not that either. You just have a huge ego and masturbate to your own posts.

You’re Donald Trump with smarter words.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Well according to “original” Lucas everyone can have the same abilities if they just train hard enough.

Not canon

Well “original” Lucas is definitely more canon than “special edition” Lucas.

Dubious.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Well according to “original” Lucas everyone can have the same abilities if they just train hard enough.

Not canon

Well “original” Lucas is definitely more canon than “special edition” Lucas.

When it comes to a lot of things, yes. Everyone being able to use the Force is not one of them as it would demystify it.

Well it is not good but it is certainly better than force potential being hereditary (which is a nod to midichlorians). In ideal world force potential should be completely random.