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imperialscum
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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1-Aug-2016, 6:45 AM

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

If Leia is Force Sensitive why did Vader not pick up on that in STAR WARS?

Where did this question come from? Anyway, some percentage of population is force sensitive (or if you take Lucas’ word, everyone is force sensitive). I don’t see why would he get “upset” by something completely normal.

The Force would have to be exceptionally strong with Leia as it was with Luke. Seeing as how he noted it during the Battle of Yavin why wouldn’t he note Leia’s strong connection to the Force when he was in even closer proximity to her? It made sense in STAR WARS because it wasn’t planned that Leia and Luke were related at that juncture but Return of The Jedi completely makes that part of STAR WARS nonsensical and that’s something the PT is notorious for.

I still don’t see where are you trying to get with this. There were billions of individuals in the galaxy who were exceptionally strong with the force. What was he supposed to assume when he encountered one? I hope you don’t try to imply he should assume that everyone strong with the force should be his children. I mean he shouldn’t even have any reason to assume he had any children.

I didn’t say anything about him assuming she was his offspring. I was asking why he didn’t pick up on how strong she was in the Force and why would he note Luke’s strength in the Force and not Leia’s.

Who says he didn’t sense it? Just because he didn’t spell it out load for you it doesn’t mean he didn’t pick it up. It was just insignificant in the situation. He only said it out loud in case of Luke to inform his TIE flight because it was relevant to the battle. Luke was a serious potential threat because of it.

We make fun of Ric being Captain Obvious in PT and spelling everything out loud, but it seems there are people here that actually need it.

It was a construction site. You cannot spend twice as much effort and resources to protect it and obstructing the process. That is like trying to take a shit and trying figuring out how to not getting your ass dirty. It will get dirty one way or another. It is better to finish it quickly and then clean it afterwards.

Of course you can when you have the resources that The Empire did. I can understand you saying that when it first started being built but when the Emperor decided that it would be instrumental in the annihilation of the Rebel Alliance he should have taken precautions so that it couldn’t have been destroyed.

Well it is not just a matter of resources. It also depends how much time they had. And they have taken serious precautions… that is why there was a massive fleet guarding it.

The fleet was only there to stop them from escaping.

That might have been a secondary objective during the battle. But the primary objective before the battle was obviously protection.

AK-47 compared to jet fighters and helicopters is just as big gap. And which part of “ewoks were merely a distraction, while rebels (Chewie) did most of the job defeating them” you did not get?

I was actually talking about the Vietnamese vs US ground Troops. The Ewoks didn’t have anything close to blasters and were still able to kill multiple Storm Troopers. When factoring in the speeder bikes and the AT-ST’s the Ewoks were able to destroy 2 of them and take over another and was able to destroy at least two speeder bikes. That’s more than a distraction; they were instrumental in the deflector shield being disabled.

They were indeed instrumental. I have never claimed otherwise. However, the fact is that rebels did the main part.

Well merely calling them a distraction understates their importance.

Distraction can still be crucial.

Well it does. Whether you like it or not.

Can you provide an example?

SE scenes.

Take out the supposed time jump to where everyone is celebrating at the same time (where it’s not even stated or even hinted at that’s it’s any time later than right after the Battle of Endor) and what do you have? Nothing. There are no scenes in the OT where many months or years has passed so why would they do it for that one scene? You’re obviously projecting your headcanon into what’s actually in the film.

Just because there are no other scenes before, it doesn’t justify your self-made-up “rule” where Star Wars cannot have such scenes. Just because I haven’t eaten this specific fish until today, it doesn’t mean I couldn’t possibly eat it today.