imperialscum said:
There are no story telling problems. It is all in your mind my friend.The fact that Vader did one good thing and get’s into Force Heaven
He did THE good thing. He killed Emperor, which caused Empire’s collapse.
the fact that Yoda is okay with Luke not finish his training even though he said a couple of sentences prior (and in ESB) that only a fully trained Jedi Knight will conquer Vader and his Emperor
Yoda’s and Obi-Wan’s plan was never to use Luke to defeat Vader and Emperor (because that was impossible). They simply used him as a tool to trigger Anakin’s return, who could kill Emperor (and did).
the fact Death Star 2.0 exists
That’s the most stupid complaint about ROTJ ever. The fact that Death Star 2.0 exists is a good story telling as it follows a basic logic. When IJN sunk USN aircraft carriers during the initial stages of Pacific War, did USN stop building aircraft carrier? No… they built newer and bigger ones.
the fact teddy bears somehow overcame the best legion of Storm Troopers The Empire had
There are numerous real life examples when apparently much weaker enemy defeated stronger. And if you actually paid attention to the film, you would see that teddy bears were more of a distraction. Rebels (Chewie in particular) did most of the job. As for “best legion”, Emperor would obviously say “best” to demoralise Luke even if they were “cripple battalion”. There might be a legion-sized unit on the planet guarding different sectors of the huge shield generator complex (film clearly shows it was huge), but that particular back door was obviously guarded by a company-sized unit (which we see in the battle).
the fact that somehow losing the Second Death Star
It is as unrealistic as losing the first one in ANH or as unrealistic as rebels escaping the Hoth blockade in ESB.
Vader, Palpatine in a few Star Destroyers means the war is over etc.
Juts because you came to such a dumb conclusion, it doesn’t mean it is actually the case. The death of the Emperor caused a gradual collapse of the Empire. If Emperor survived, the outcome of this battle would be insignificant. This point connects to Luke being used to trigger Anikan’s return who killed Emperor and saved the galaxy.
I can’t pick apart SW and ESB to that degree; I can only really nitpick as it pertains to story and how it’s executed.
ROTJ is a complex film, even more so than ANH and ESB. From you reply, it is obvious you simply can’t handle this kind of complexity.
It actually makes sense now why you like TFA so much and why I dislike it so much. Because TFA is an empty over-simplistic crap.