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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released) — Page 7

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Okay, guys, it seems like this issue is indeed simply the result of sheer compression. It doesn’t matter the method, just the amount of compression needed to fit onto a single-layer BluRay disc.
So, I’m going to encode it at full bitrate and release that. If you want the best quality, that’s gonna be the way to go. It’ll be the more future proof option, keeping the quality as close to the source material as possible. If you already downloaded the first 1080p release, it’s fine as is, just had to be compressed a little.

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So, uh, something that may or may not have been overlooked, is how at the end, the planet implodes, and I always thought that it ends up looking like a star because it absorbed a star. Now, since you made it fire, shouldn’t it not do that? I always felt that satisfaction at the end, but now it seems like there’s a bunch of energy that just comes from nowhere.
Also, Poe’s “our job’s done here” seems a bit weird now, because they failed to prevent their DC from being nuked. Just a thought…
Good job on the edits, though, Hal and others!

reylo?

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KumoNin said:

So, uh, something that may or may not have been overlooked, is how at the end, the planet implodes, and I always thought that it ends up looking like a star because it absorbed a star. Now, since you made it fire, shouldn’t it not do that? I always felt that satisfaction at the end, but now it seems like there’s a bunch of energy that just comes from nowhere.

Well, it ends up being a very small star compared to the size of the sun that has been sucked. We can assume there was still enough solar energy emmagazined even after having shot. The SKB is such a bad idea that’s impossible to save everything involving it; this subplot alteration raises less awkwardness about it I think.

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Yeah. If anything, it makes it a little less weird (on an intuitive, totally non-scientific level) that the new star appears to be as big as the planet, rather than much larger as clearly visible earlier in the movie.

It’s… it’s weird no matter which version you’re talking about.

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From the Spleen:

"has anyone successfully burned this to a BD25?

every time I create an ISO or BDMV the video does play smoothly"

I’m guessing he/she meant ‘doesn’t play smoothly’.

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stretch009 said:

From the Spleen:

"has anyone successfully burned this to a BD25?

every time I create an ISO or BDMV the video does play smoothly"

I’m guessing he/she meant ‘doesn’t play smoothly’.

If it’s the same problem people were encountering with the prequel edits, the answer was to check the box “Do not change SEI and VUI data” in Tsmuxer.

Also, the BD50 version is now on Myspleen, and I’m getting it ready to be listed elsewhere too.

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As a big fan of your prequel edits, Hal 9000, congratulations on making a version of TFA too! I skimmed through the altered sections, and it’s pretty impressive stuff. The climax in particular works gangbusters with the added weight of the Republic systems being destroyed.

Seeing as how you released a BD50 encode that’s only 29 GB, would it be possible to also release the uncompressed 5.1 PCM? Space, it would seem, is no longer a concern, and AFAIK, Final Cut Pro can output lossless if so instructed.

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Thanks again for this edit Hal and everyone else involved in the project (I love your new SFX shots Jackpumpkinhead, great job on these !).

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Seing as how you released a BD50 encode that’s only 29 GB, would it be possible to also release the uncompressed 5.1 PCM? Space, it would seem, is no longer a concern, and AFAIK, Final Cut Pro can output lossless if so instructed.

I believe Hal plans to share it as a side file for those who want it.

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That’s right. It’s nearly 5GB on its own, being much larger than the source itself (the 5.1 DTS track). Because that seemed weird, I shyed away from including it. But I’ll put it up as a separate download for anyone who wants to go hog wild.

Thanks for the kudos.

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Yesss, finally found this on .info and gonna check it out right away!

( Now I only need to find a way to implement this kind of Rathtar scene in there and voilá! https://vimeo.com/172073404 by digmodification )

EDIT: Damn! The 3rd act works so much better now. The Maz Kanata part where the TIEs come in and Finn says “it’s the First Order, they’ve done it” still feels a bit weird though (because what did they DO?)… but that can’t be helped without re-dubbing or something, heh. 😃

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Sorry it’s been a while, you guys. I’m going to encode the lossless audio tonight and should have it up someplace before next week.
For all you people who like to imagine they can hear a difference. 😉

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It seems that you guys already had some discussion about the “it’s the First Order” line in the first page. I think our only hope is that Frink somehow re-dubs it to “It’s the First Order, they’re coming!” and Han replies “Thank you, Captain Obvious”. Haha!

Also the part right after where Maz hands over the lightsaber to Finn made me smile a bit because of “Those beasts, they’re here!” and Han stands there looking like “Shit, we forgot to tell her”. 😄

But anyways it’s all fine because we know how it “really goes” and the 3rd act is the most important part.

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The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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ziggyonice said:

The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

I wondered about that myself and I think it should be possible. IIRC Leia is wearing the same outfit, so “all” that needs to be done is to rotoscope the hug and add the base as a background.

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Kexikus said:

ziggyonice said:

The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

I wondered about that myself and I think it should be possible. IIRC Leia is wearing the same outfit, so “all” that needs to be done is to rotoscope the hug and add the base as a background.

I attempted this, but it is a bit difficult due to the amount of smoke in that scene. I’m sure there are some master rotoscopers here that could pull it off though.

Hal9000, did you see my post over at fanedit.org about the Kylo Snoke continuity?

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Yes, I did. The discontinuity between hooded and unmasked Ren in that scene is known. However, it would require a very dedicated, thorough, and competent person putting in a lot of time to totally fix it.
If one such lunatic lurks here, be my guest. This scene is the one thing that bugs me about this implementation of the edit’s idea.
I did watch TFA:R last night, and I gotta say… it’s amazing how much it improves the film.

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DigMod said:

Kexikus said:

ziggyonice said:

The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

I wondered about that myself and I think it should be possible. IIRC Leia is wearing the same outfit, so “all” that needs to be done is to rotoscope the hug and add the base as a background.

I attempted this, but it is a bit difficult due to the amount of smoke in that scene. I’m sure there are some master rotoscopers here that could pull it off though.

Regarding the insertion of having Chewie hug Leia at the end of the film… I don’t think the smoke from the Maz Temple scene would be a problem. When Rey and Co. return to the Resistance base, there is smoke in that scene much as there is in the Maz scene. So I think it would be doable.

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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ziggyonice said:

DigMod said:

Kexikus said:

ziggyonice said:

The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

I wondered about that myself and I think it should be possible. IIRC Leia is wearing the same outfit, so “all” that needs to be done is to rotoscope the hug and add the base as a background.

I attempted this, but it is a bit difficult due to the amount of smoke in that scene. I’m sure there are some master rotoscopers here that could pull it off though.

Regarding the insertion of having Chewie hug Leia at the end of the film… I don’t think the smoke from the Maz Temple scene would be a problem. When Rey and Co. return to the Resistance base, there is smoke in that scene much as there is in the Maz scene. So I think it would be doable.

The easiest way really is to simply cut the aftermath scene and to directly go to the “being sad in Resistance HQ” scene. Rotoscoping such a long shot might be quite a long process for a not very convincing result… Plus, not being cruel, the less we see Leia in plain light the better it is…

edit: by the way Hal is the audio file somewhere to be found now ?

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MalàStrana said:

edit: by the way Hal is the audio file somewhere to be found now ?

Sorry, I’ve been trying to encode TAS and the day for night scene is making it very difficult. Plus I’ve been so busy I haven’t had as much time to do that anyway.
But once that’s done, I’ll work on the PCM audio for TFA:R before moving on to LOE.

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Ok Hal, thanks for the update. I was just wondering if I had missed something !

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Thanks Hal !
Has someone successfully tried to mux the PCM audio file ? I’m failing so far (don’t know why).

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MalàStrana said:

Thanks Hal !
Has someone successfully tried to mux the PCM audio file ? I’m failing so far (don’t know why).

I have no idea what I’m doing… but could it be because the audio file is .mov?

As in… shouldn’t it be .mkv like the video file? At least that’s what my muxer said: “not a valid matroska file”.

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I don’t get any “not a valid mkv file” message but the v9.3.1 doesn’t deliver anything when I launch the muxing. There might be a change to be done with the audio file prior to the muxing step.

edit: ok, to make it work you need to open the .mov file in audacity, then export it as “wav 16 bit” (it’s the same lossless quality as the original file). You end up with a .wav file that is easily read by mkvtoolnix.