From the “Share your good news!” thread
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
That person is speaking a non English language in prayer. In what way is that strictly gibberish?
She’s muttering things that are not words.
Christians who think speaking in tongues is weird and gibberish are a really big problem in the Church community.
I don’t know to what extant you could call me a Christian (although maybe I still am, who knows?), but yes, even in my most devout times I was against this because no one knows what it means. I had much more harsh words for it when I was real crazily into the whole Bible thing, but that lady doesn’t know what she’s saying in the video. She’s babbling. Why not pray in a real language and actually use words?
Does she have to understand what she is saying? Can you give proof that she is not speaking real words? Non-English does not equal “not a real language”. She’s exercising faith. She is praying in a language she alone does not know because the Holy Ghost is empowering her to do so. Utilizing the Lord’s gifts righteously is a form of praise and worship.
Non-English doesn’t equal “not a real language”, but non-any-existing-language does. Why would the Holy Ghost put a language that you can’t comprehend into you? How is it a prayer if you don’t know what you’re saying?
Also, regarding your statement about 1 Corinthians, I don’t think it is condemning the use of a gift from God. Paul says to strive and hope for greater gifts than that, because it’s span of use for reaching others is limited. Even then, sometimes God speaks directly to groups of believers through a gift of tongues.
Just this past week at camp it happened. Someone received a word from God in other tongues and shouted it out to everyone there. Then, as is necessary, another student was gifted with the ability to interpret meaning, and he relayed God’s words to the rest of us.
What denomination is this? Pentecostal?
I think it’s technically Pentecostal. It’s the Assemblies Of God, but I’m not sure if I can really speak for the everyone who’s a part of it.
That’s what I thought. I’ve been weary of that business since I was a kid. The glossolalia, which is a combination of babbling tongues and euphoric convulsions that about scarred me for life.
Here on Earth, it’s not just about holding your faith close and not letting it out for fear of offending. It’s about allowing as many people as possible to make the right choice. To be Jesus’ witnesses to the ends of the Earth.
To do what Jesus did, and greater things than that, through the hand of God.
Greater things than Jesus Christ himself did?
Dek Rollins said:
And I honestly don’t know what language I’m speaking when I do it.Then how do you know what you’re saying?
I don’t, specifically. I have faith, and I focus on what ever it is that I need to. If I’m just praising God, I’ll focus directly on that and let God empower me. If I’m praying over someone’s injury, I’ll specify in prayer, and focus on that, and on God’s power and mercy.
Shouldn’t you know what you’re saying to God? For all you know you could be blaspheming him.
1 Cor. 14
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
At best, Paul the Apostle was saying that tongues is acceptable in private if you have understanding, yet only amongst others with interpreters present also. Definitely not something to be trifled with though. At least that’s my interpretation of it. I never believed that all of these gifts are in effect anymore. I was of the school of thought that these miracles were worked during this time, but once the narrative was complete, they ceased. I think it actually said in 1 Cor. 13 that tongues will cease, yet charity will never fail.