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Lord Haseo said:

Well if it takes several days or a week for the Death Star to make it to Yavin IV and Leia knows it’s tracking them then why wouldn’t the Rebels just abandon the base?

You may have just answered why Mon Mothma isn’t there.

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yotsuya said:

Lord Haseo said:

Well if it takes several days or a week for the Death Star to make it to Yavin IV and Leia knows it’s tracking them then why wouldn’t the Rebels just abandon the base?

You may have just answered why Mon Mothma isn’t there.

Two birds with one stone.

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Doing a bit of digging into galactic densities and the size of a star system, weeks would be theoretically possible, but it requires the conjunction of 3 star systems (Hoth, Anoat, and Bespin) to be unusually close for even the densest galaxy (and the starfield used portrayes a density close to our galaxy. The longer it takes to travel the more likely such a conjunction is. This is fiction so that isn’t particular important, but…

And its not like Vader was just sitting around waiting. He took off and then met up with Boba Fett on Bespin before the Falcon arrived. That also indicates some time has passed. But I think Luke’s training is the key point. The longer it lasts, the better Luke can be and the more complete the training. Because whatever Yoda didn’t cover in TESB, Luke no longer needed in ROTJ. That indicates the training was pretty complete.

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Honestly, it’s quite possible (and incredible, when you think about it) that the entirety of the first Star Wars takes place over the course of just three days.

Day 1: Vader captures Leia and her ship, 3PO and R2 land on Tatooine with the plans, get captured by the Jawas that evening.

Day 2: Owen buys 3PO and R2, we’re introduced to Luke, watch him clean the droids, see the Leia hologram, Binary Sunset, etc. Ends with R2 running away.

Day 3: Luke searches for R2 first thing in the morning with 3PO, gets attacked by sand people and meets Obi-Wan. Goes to Obi-Wan’s hut, learns about the force, gets lied to about his father. Owen and Beru get killed, Luke finds out, goes to Mos Eisley with Obi-Wan. They meet Han and Chewie, set course for Alderaan.

We know for certain THAT much took place over three days at least. The question is how long it takes them to get to the Death Star by hyperspace. It certainly feels to the viewer–or at least it always did to me–like they arrive at the Death Star on the same day Alderaan gets blown up which was the same day they took off. And the state the place is in when they get there seems to support that. Obi-Wan “feels” the disturbance in the force at the time it happens too.

Anyway, they get to the Death Star, rescue Leia and Ben dies - that clearly all happens on the same day, and then you would think since the Death Star is about to destroy the rebel base and there is no time to evacuate apparently that time is of the essence. So it seems like the whole battle takes place later that same day, or it always felt that way to me. Though again, because they get to Yavin via hyperspace we aren’t 100% sure how long it took them to get there.

At any rate, it does make it seem a bit strange that Luke got such an emotional attachment to Obi-Wan after only truly knowing him for a few days and only thinking of him as a bizarre old hermit before then.

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SilverWook said:

The whole point of stealing the DS plans is to destroy the thing. Why chase your enemy, when it can come to your front door?

Um, because if they break down the door they will kill you all. Trust me, when it comes to war it’s not like a football game. You most definitely don’t want to fight on your home turf. There is a reason the US emerged as the superpower after WW2.

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The Rebellion goes through hidden bases like most people go through socks though. The alternative is half the Imperial fleet standing between you and the Death Star. Whether the Rebellion in the first movie even had the ship numbers it had in ROTJ is open to debate.

Where were you in '77?

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People with screen readers need the title. If the image doesn’t load, it is useful to see the title.

An even better way is this:

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yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

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TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

And what are the archivists going to do 200 years from now when they get around to this site?

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I don’t know, I just like everything preserved. Someone should make a site about that. . . .

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Keep your off topic behaviour in off topic please. Not wanting to sound rude, but just wanting to remind you that off topic exists for a reason. Surprise me by not replying to this post.

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Density said:

Honestly, it’s quite possible (and incredible, when you think about it) that the entirety of the first Star Wars takes place over the course of just three days.

Day 1: Vader captures Leia and her ship, 3PO and R2 land on Tatooine with the plans, get captured by the Jawas that evening.

Day 2: Owen buys 3PO and R2, we’re introduced to Luke, watch him clean the droids, see the Leia hologram, Binary Sunset, etc. Ends with R2 running away.

Day 3: Luke searches for R2 first thing in the morning with 3PO, gets attacked by sand people and meets Obi-Wan. Goes to Obi-Wan’s hut, learns about the force, gets lied to about his father. Owen and Beru get killed, Luke finds out, goes to Mos Eisley with Obi-Wan. They meet Han and Chewie, set course for Alderaan.

We know for certain THAT much took place over three days at least. The question is how long it takes them to get to the Death Star by hyperspace. It certainly feels to the viewer–or at least it always did to me–like they arrive at the Death Star on the same day Alderaan gets blown up which was the same day they took off. And the state the place is in when they get there seems to support that. Obi-Wan “feels” the disturbance in the force at the time it happens too.

Anyway, they get to the Death Star, rescue Leia and Ben dies - that clearly all happens on the same day, and then you would think since the Death Star is about to destroy the rebel base and there is no time to evacuate apparently that time is of the essence. So it seems like the whole battle takes place later that same day, or it always felt that way to me. Though again, because they get to Yavin via hyperspace we aren’t 100% sure how long it took them to get there.

At any rate, it does make it seem a bit strange that Luke got such an emotional attachment to Obi-Wan after only truly knowing him for a few days and only thinking of him as a bizarre old hermit before then.

This was hotly debated in the WEG RPG. The first edition had the travel time from Tatooine to Alderaan in days. They revised it to hours.

But, one reason that Luke is so sad to lose Ben (and this is pointed out in the film) is that Ben knew his father and Luke is hungry to learn about his father. His uncle never talked much about him, but Ben seemed to be willing to. So in Ben he finds this connection to his father and then loses him. That is a pretty good reason to be sad.

The travel time from Alderaan to Yavin doesn’t really matter. The Falcon and Death Star travel it in similar times with the Falcon arriving enough ahead that the rebels are able to analyze the data and find the weakness they needed and prepare to launch an attack. Considering that Rogue One has the secret mission leave from Yavin and Leia is attacked at Tatooine, It is not hard to imagine that all 3 planets are in the same area. But that really all depends on how far a ship can travel in hyperspace in an hour. If you can cross the galaxy in a day, then the planets can be quite far apart, but would still be the same general area (same quadrant).

In TESB the issue is different. The Falcon’s hyperdrive is out and they have to take the long way. That changes any trip from hours or days into weeks at the least. And that is just to get to a neighboring system. From a storytelling perspective, the time is irrelevant. It is enough time for you to believe that Han and Leia are in love and that Yoda has trained Luke to be a quasi-Jedi (the way I look at it is that Yoda trained him in the skills he needed, but Luke hadn’t passed the tests to confirm he had learned the most important lessons - that he came back from confronting Vader proved he had taken in Yoda’s training). It really is however long you as the viewer thinks it needs to be to accomplish those two things. For me, that is about 2-3 months. The story skips to the arrival at Bespin and Luke’s vision so how long it took is never addressed. I think with Lucas’ idea that 3 years happen between ANH and TESB and 1 year between TESB and ROTJ that a longer time for the events in TESB fits better, but that is me.

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yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

And what are the archivists going to do 200 years from now when they get around to this site?

can i have invite to myspleen please?

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JohnySasaki said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

And what are the archivists going to do 200 years from now when they get around to this site?

can i have invite to myspleen please?

Well, you asked, so no.

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yhwx said:

JohnySasaki said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

And what are the archivists going to do 200 years from now when they get around to this site?

can i have invite to myspleen please?

Well, you asked, so no.

its more so that you asked twice, quoted a random post to do so, and your only two posts are both the same question. this is not a forum for asking for invites, otherwise that type of behavior might not be responded to so rudely.

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JohnySasaki said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

People with screen readers need the title.

I guess that’s true but it’s also true that I’m too lazy for that.

And what are the archivists going to do 200 years from now when they get around to this site?

can i have invite to myspleen please?

Why hasn’t this sock-bitch been banned yet?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

JohnySasaki said:

can i have invite to myspleen please?

Why hasn’t this sock-bitch been banned yet?

Form 51AB hasn’t been filled out yet.


yotsuya said:

In TESB the issue is different. The Falcon’s hyperdrive is out and they have to take the long way. That changes any trip from hours or days into weeks at the least. And that is just to get to a neighboring system. From a storytelling perspective, the time is irrelevant. It is enough time for you to believe that Luke and Leia are in love and that Yoda has trained Luke to be a quasi-Jedi (the way I look at it is that Yoda trained him in the skills he needed, but Luke hadn’t passed the tests to confirm he had learned the most important lessons - that he came back from confronting Vader proved he had taken in Yoda’s training). It really is however long you as the viewer thinks it needs to be to accomplish those two things. For me, that is about 2-3 months. The story skips to the arrival at Bespin and Luke’s vision so how long it took is never addressed. I think with Lucas’ idea that 3 years happen between ANH and TESB and 1 year between TESB and ROTJ that a longer time for the events in TESB fits better, but that is me.

Such a short timescale for training a Jedi would betray the prequels because Jedi training then is more like school. But that isn’t new.