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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I really don’t understand what’s awkward about it.

The idea is that the more Disney/Lucasfilm discusses a new OOT release, the more they will have to publicly discuss George’s wishes regarding that mess, what is/isn’t canon. The ways in which they could promote the OOT are a bit of a diss to the later versions.

I don’t really think this is the case, though, and there is a respectful line they can walk while still promoting the hell out of it (“See it again for the first time ever blah blah”). There are a few diehard Lucas fanboys who have been convinced that the originals need to remain buried, but it’s of no importance that the marketing cater to them if their SE versions are still for sale.

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towne32 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I really don’t understand what’s awkward about it.

The idea is that the more Disney/Lucasfilm discusses a new OOT release, the more they will have to publicly discuss George’s wishes regarding that mess, what is/isn’t canon. The ways in which they could promote the OOT are a bit of a diss to the later versions.

LOL, but we know that’s pretty silly… After handing Lucas 4 billion bucks and then him turning around and saying “I sold my children to the slavers” I don’t think they have much interest in his wishes anymore!

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Dreamaster said:

towne32 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I really don’t understand what’s awkward about it.

The idea is that the more Disney/Lucasfilm discusses a new OOT release, the more they will have to publicly discuss George’s wishes regarding that mess, what is/isn’t canon. The ways in which they could promote the OOT are a bit of a diss to the later versions.

LOL, but we know that’s pretty silly… After handing Lucas 4 billion bucks and then him turning around and saying “I sold my children to the slavers” I don’t think they have much interest in his wishes anymore!

No, but some fans consider him to be a magical deity. Disney, JJ, and Kathleen have generally avoided discussing him and their lack of interest in his idea for the sequel trilogy. Kind of an “if you don’t have anything nice to say…” type of situation, I think.

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I’m sure when the unaltered theatricals come out there will be much fanfare. They wouldn’t release them if they weren’t trying to make some sweet dinero, and they wouldn’t let that sweet dinero go because people assumed the set was just a standard SE double, sorry, triple dip (wait, quadruple?). I seem to remember the GOUT being the main point of interest in the marketing for the 2006 DVD set anyway.

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DominicCobb said:

I’m sure when the unaltered theatricals come out there will be much fanfare. They wouldn’t release them if they weren’t trying to make some sweet dinero, and they wouldn’t let that sweet dinero go because people assumed the set was just a standard SE double, sorry, triple dip (wait, quadruple?). I seem to remember the GOUT being the main point of interest in the marketing for the 2006 DVD set anyway.

The current SE has had 4 physical releases and a digital release.

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Wazzles said:

DominicCobb said:

I’m sure when the unaltered theatricals come out there will be much fanfare. They wouldn’t release them if they weren’t trying to make some sweet dinero, and they wouldn’t let that sweet dinero go because people assumed the set was just a standard SE double, sorry, triple dip (wait, quadruple?). I seem to remember the GOUT being the main point of interest in the marketing for the 2006 DVD set anyway.

The current SE has had 4 physical releases and a digital release.

4? Do the steelbooks and saga repackage count as separate releases? They came out at the same time.

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Release 1: first saga and trilogy sets
Release 2: trilogy bd dvd combo set
Release 3: saga repackage and steelbooks (released simultaneously)

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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DominicCobb said:

Wazzles said:

DominicCobb said:

I’m sure when the unaltered theatricals come out there will be much fanfare. They wouldn’t release them if they weren’t trying to make some sweet dinero, and they wouldn’t let that sweet dinero go because people assumed the set was just a standard SE double, sorry, triple dip (wait, quadruple?). I seem to remember the GOUT being the main point of interest in the marketing for the 2006 DVD set anyway.

The current SE has had 4 physical releases and a digital release.

4? Do the steelbooks and saga repackage count as separate releases? They came out at the same time.

In my count. I also forgot about the original BD trilogies, which by my count takes it up to 6. Then if you want to include the 04 SE, it had 4 releases, bringing it to a grand total of 10 on modern formats.

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Really in fairness the original trilogy boxes should be considered the same “release” as the saga box.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Hey guys. We should push this discussion to another thread, this has nothing to do with Legacy. We’re clogging up poor Mike’s thread!

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Uggh…finally back online after moving and no internet for a month…

You may now send me a montage of all I missed…uh wait…i hate montages…never mind

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Looks like you don’t know the cardinal rule about trolls: do not feed.

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Fang Zei said:

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one can hope but the fact that it says “a new hope” and not “Star Wars” may give some indication…

It will never be advertised as simply “Star Wars” ever again, regardless of which version. Even if they use the original poster art they’ll still mention that it’s ANH.

On a somewhat related note, I wonder how a hypothetical official release would “avoid the awkwardness.”

The GOUT did it by releasing the movies individually on dvd for the first time and then going “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions.”

We’re already past that point on blu-ray (the steelbooks), so I’m thinking Lucasfilm/Disney/Fox will simply wait until it’s time to release I-VI on 4k ultra hd blu-ray (I’m sure they’d put out regular blu-ray versions as well). Then they can call them “ultimate editions” or something to that effect, and be all like “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions,” even though they know damn well it’s the only reason most people would buy it. Maybe if we’re lucky we can get the theatrical prequels and the '97 versions thrown in as well.

It’s worth mentioning that if there were a 4k release of the saga, Eps 2 & 3 were filmed digitally at 2k

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Possessed said:

I didn’t think it was even full 2k?

The live action is 1080p, the CGI is 2k, and the DI is in 2k, presumably with upscaled live action.

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Yeah but I’m pretty sure the live action was some other aspect ratio than 2.35:1 (16:9 probably?) hard-matted to the correct ratio. Thus the actual live action footage from AOTC and ROTS aren’t even full 1080p, much less true 2k

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They’re even less than 1080p? Wow. I wonder if Lucas has regrets about shooting them that way now.

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canofhumdingers said:

Yeah but I’m pretty sure the live action was some other aspect ratio than 2.35:1 (16:9 probably?) hard-matted to the correct ratio. Thus the actual live action footage from AOTC and ROTS aren’t even full 1080p, much less true 2k

That is indeed the case. But we are again getting off topi in the thread.

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810p!! Woot. That’s the unfortunate price of progress.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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It was a pioneering move to shoot those films digitally and we can thank it for movies like Slumdog Millionaire or Revenant (both digitally-shot best-cinematography Oscar winners) and I for one am glad that the early digitally-shot films that are stuck in not-so-good quality are those pieces of crap and not some masterpieces of modern cinema. 😃

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canofhumdingers said:

Yeah but I’m pretty sure the live action was some other aspect ratio than 2.35:1 (16:9 probably?) hard-matted to the correct ratio. Thus the actual live action footage from AOTC and ROTS aren’t even full 1080p, much less true 2k

Well yeah, but Lucas’ entire goal with shooting it digitally was to remove film from the production process altogether so that he wouldn’t have the extra (and costly) step of scanning in practically every shot of the movie like he did on TPM.

The camera footage was only 1920 by 817, yes, but since so much of what you’re seeing in the finished movie is mostly or entirely cgi (presumably rendered at full 2k), I think we should “ignore” the resolution of the live-action source.

Avatar used 2/3" 1080p Sony cameras much like the ones used on RotS, and some of the 100% cgi shots were rendered at 3k just so they would really shine in the 70mm Imax version.

Clones and Sith will always look jarringly out of place with the other “main saga” films to me, although I have to admit they actually looked okay when intercut with the others during the AFI John Williams tribute the other week. Maybe it was the editing.

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I was just going to say that. So much of it is cgi that it may as well be considered 2k.