Earl said:

ray_afraid said:

Isn’t the hole bigger because Luke just crashed through it? I guess you’re saying it’s suddenly that big before he goes out…
It would be cool to see Luke smash through!

That’s about it, the hole becomes bigger even before he gets flung out. I guess adjusting the window would’ve been easier than training Mark’s stunt double to smash through it.

Because the focus is different from one shot (Luke in the front while the window is in the background) and the second shot (Luke and the window in the same focal plane), don’t you think ?

Asteroid-Man said:

sigh I’m speaking in relative terms. He joined in 2014 - this thread is from 2008. He hasn’t been around for the entire ride. In any case, if you’re going to take anything from what I wrote, don’t focus on the “be welcoming to noobs” part, but rather the “be patient and courteous” part.

I think your general point is a good one. We (certainly including myself) should be accommodating to new users.

But, as others have said, this user is an exception in some ways. There have been many, many, many attempts to convey a sense of what forum etiquette should be to him (to be clear: not begging, demanding, or harassing because you think you’ve found someone who can make a thing you want to have but do not want to be involved in making). Quite a few times, this has been very polite. Other times, less so. The user will apologize and ask or demand something in the same response post, clearly missing the message.

After quite a few of these conversations, I think it’s the consensus here that the guy isn’t a troll. He may be on the autistic spectrum or have something else going on. We’ve worked out that it’s not just a matter of being extremely young. So, there’s no reason to be rude to him. But there is a need to be a bit strict with him, I would say. It’s certainly the case of offering an inch and taking a mile when you reach out to him about a suggestion of his, so members who aren’t familiar with him should be informed that considering his suggestions/demands/questions may lead to months of daily messages as he might think you will be the one to grant him some great favors.

It can be difficult to determine who is intentionally trolling a forum like this, since there are people with special needs, etc, who are welcome to be members of the community. When there are users (like “Dat”, for instance) who intentionally exploit that kind of patience, it can be certainly be tempting to just respond rudely. In the case of JMO, I really don’t think it’s intentional in any way. It is, however, enormously persistent to the point that giving a genuine response can unfortunately (for everyone) backfire quite a bit.

towne32 said:

Asteroid-Man said:

sigh I’m speaking in relative terms. He joined in 2014 - this thread is from 2008. He hasn’t been around for the entire ride. In any case, if you’re going to take anything from what I wrote, don’t focus on the “be welcoming to noobs” part, but rather the “be patient and courteous” part.

I think your general point is a good one. We (certainly including myself) should be accommodating to new users.

But, as others have said, this user is an exception in some ways. There have been many, many, many attempts to convey a sense of what forum etiquette should be to him (to be clear: not begging, demanding, or harassing because you think you’ve found someone who can make a thing you want to have but do not want to be involved in making). Quite a few times, this has been very polite. Other times, less so. The user will apologize and ask or demand something in the same response post, clearly missing the message.

After quite a few of these conversations, I think it’s the consensus here that the guy isn’t a troll. He may be on the autistic spectrum or have something else going on. We’ve worked out that it’s not just a matter of being extremely young. So, there’s no reason to be rude to him. But there is a need to be a bit strict with him, I would say. It’s certainly the case of offering an inch and taking a mile when you reach out to him about a suggestion of his, so members who aren’t familiar with him should be informed that considering his suggestions/demands/questions may lead to months of daily messages as he might think you will be the one to grant him some great favors.

It can be difficult to determine who is intentionally trolling a forum like this, since there are people with special needs, etc, who are welcome to be members of the community. When there are users (like “Dat”, for instance) who intentionally exploit that kind of patience, it can be certainly be tempting to just respond rudely. In the case of JMO, I really don’t think it’s intentional in any way. It is, however, enormously persistent to the point that giving a genuine response can unfortunately (for everyone) backfire quite a bit.

1)I guess i’ve never been good with sentience structure. 2)I don’t have a blu ray drive to do edits. 3)I’m sorry i don’t mean to be a pest i’m just a fan like everybody on here.

In the documentary (sorry can not remember which one) you see the stunt double do back flips before he jumps out but I am also pretty sure they detonate the window frames to break also before he flies out.

The idea was probably to have an alternate camera angle where it appears he smashes through the rest of the window. Just saying…

The way I see it is, if you haven’t donated to the Revisited project, then don’t ask. If you have contributed, I feel like it’s okay to ask if there hasn’t been update in awhile.

mfastx said:

The way I see it is, if you haven’t donated to the Revisited project, then don’t ask. If you have contributed, I feel like it’s okay to ask if there hasn’t been update in awhile.

I disagree; it’s a donation, not a purchase. If you give money to the project, your contribution is a financial aid and a show of support—that’s all. In no way have you bought yourself the right to expect answers to your questions. This idea has manifested itself again and again on these forums over the years, and I really don’t understand why people feel as though Ady (or his helpers) owes us anything on demand. When he has something to tell us, he always does. When he’s quiet, that means he has nothing new to say. Simple.

Tyrphanax said:

MalàStrana said:

Earl said:

ray_afraid said:

Isn’t the hole bigger because Luke just crashed through it? I guess you’re saying it’s suddenly that big before he goes out…
It would be cool to see Luke smash through!

That’s about it, the hole becomes bigger even before he gets flung out. I guess adjusting the window would’ve been easier than training Mark’s stunt double to smash through it.

Because the focus is different from one shot (Luke in the front while the window is in the background) and the second shot (Luke and the window in the same focal plane), don’t you think ?

He means the bottom part of the window is broken out in the second scene even before Luke flies through it without an explanation as to why it’s broken, not the whole window itself changing size.

The scene works. The camera flashes to Luke before he’s sucked out the window while there are still items smashing at the window. I always just figured one of those items broke through the lower part while the camera was pointed at Luke. I guess it just depends on you certain point of view.

Tyrphanax said:

WHY DID I COME HERE.

WYSHS

(Also, note to ferris in case he somehow sees this post - I modified Tyr’s quote)

Tyrphanax said:

I actually considered editing my post for that, but then I decided I had come here to get away from ywhx.

I know.

The purpose of my post was to extend your joke, by making it sort of like I was yhwx, considering your referenced joke of “WHY DID I COME HERE.”

Remember several years ago when Adywan said he was going to put us all in the credits of the film as special thanks, with our real names next to our usernames? Is that still a thing? I remember having to pm my real name to someone who was compiling all the names.

I don’t think ady accepts Republic credits, he needs something more real.

Captain Antilles said:
I disagree; it’s a donation, not a purchase. If you give money to the project, your contribution is a financial aid and a show of support—that’s all. In no way have you bought yourself the right to expect answers to your questions. This idea has manifested itself again and again on these forums over the years, and I really don’t understand why people feel as though Ady (or his helpers) owes us anything on demand. When he has something to tell us, he always does. When he’s quiet, that means he has nothing new to say. Simple.

That’s fair, my view is different but that’s fine. I never said those who donate have the right to answers, just to ask every now and then. I just don’t see anything wrong with it.

doubleofive said:
Let’s not play that particular game, please.

Not sure what you’re referring to, but I’m okay to not say anything else on this particular subject.