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I remember in 1999 when I saw TPM there was a scene where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon made out AND I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY YOU CAN’T TELL ME IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
Where were you in '77?
Extended original cut of first film released way back? — Page 5
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That explains the awkward tension.
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I remember in 1999 when I saw TPM there was a scene where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon made out AND I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY YOU CAN’T TELL ME IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
Wrong! It was Obi Wan and Anakin. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnnR6cYXnt4
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I found that one scene where a talking pizza roll comes out of the screen and tells me to kill my wife to be really out of place.
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Don’t do drugs before watching Spaceballs?
At least it wasn’t the Pillsbury Doughboy, that little guy is pure evil!
Where were you in '77?
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Don’t do drugs before watching Spaceballs?
I believe he was referencing the RLM reviews of the Prequels.
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Doh!
Where were you in '77?
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I remember in 1999 when I saw TPM there was a scene where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon made out AND I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY YOU CAN’T TELL ME IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
Don’t worry, scenes along those lines will most likely be coming someday in one of the many sequels, so you can have a true memory of it.
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I have my own false memory from seeing ESB in a 1981 re-release. When Luke is in the Wampa cave, I have a distinct memory of Obi Wan telling him to use the force telepathically to lift the lightsaber.
When the VHS of ESB came out, I was shocked that Obi Wan’s voice was absent from that scene. I think when I first joined this forum it was one of the first things I asked about. At this point I don’t think that voice over existed but I don’t know how I came up with that as a kid. Unless those re-release prints had some weird meddling by Ben Burtt that is now forgotten in time.
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You almost certainly were just conflating Obi-Wan guiding Luke through the force in the first movie and the scene right after the Wampa scene where he appears to Luke in your mind. Memory playing tricks on you is all.
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NPR did a story (maybe it was Science Friday?) about false memories. Some scientists think it could be caused by the fact that brain cells are constantly being rewritten. That is, the neurons today are not the same ones we had a year or two ago. And (ironically) like modern solid state hard drives, the memories in our brain are constantly being regenerated and stored in newly-created neurons. When that happens, it is possible for them to be incorrectly mixed with other memories.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4486533
My very strong, probably false, star wars memory is the 1977 presence of the deleted hangar scene (the one that was added back - slightly shortened - into the SE). I saw SW four times in 1977, one in 70mm and three in 35mm (not in that order), and I remember it so strongly I could recite the dialogue. I have come to accept that I probably saw it somewhere else, around the same time.
I think that the most compelling argument against these memories being real, is the diversity of them. There’s no way so many versions of Star Wars could have hit the theaters.
Since joining this forum and resigning myself to the fact that my memory is probably false, I have been careful to observe other instances in my life where I have provably false memories. Since then I’ve probably had at least 5 or 6 such examples - versions of my experiences that I had believed for years, and were utterly proven false. Things like, my mom did this, and it turned out my aunt did it. Or, I saw a certain thing in my backyard, and it was actually at school. The brain is a complex beast.
Heck, Trump remembers people partying in the streets of New Jersey after 911. I don’t think it’s a lie, I think it is a false memory, with his regenerating brain cells mixing in memories of Palestinian celebrations.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/
"Close the blast doors!"
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That’s what I’ve had to accept as well, that my memory from 77 of the hangar scene, was probably re-manufactured later. The weight of evidence as I dug into it lately, does not support it being real.
Possibly in my case it was imagining in 77 that Jabba was humanoid, even though he was not shown. Given image by seeing a TV special or documentary later. With dialogue being so similar to Greedo scene reinforcing it (“hey I remember that dialogue…”).
Being annoyed in 84 watching ROTJ and seeing Jabba the slug, points to the memory being set-in before then. Or, less likely I was still imagining him being a human originally. Too long ago to know how it all happened now.
The dialogue similarities to the Greedo scene likely contributed to how easy it was to create a memory in this case. Its easy to see how the brain can use the audio as a reference point, to grab the video of that scene and insert it in memory.
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Heck, Trump remembers people partying in the streets of New Jersey after 911. I don’t think it’s a lie, I think it is a false memory, with his regenerating brain cells mixing in memories of Palestinian celebrations.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/
I have a false memory of Donald Trump being the Republican nominee. That can’t possibly be true.
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Hopefully the memories of Trump winning the election this year will be false.
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I was trying to not get too political here…I don’t think anyone believed he could be the nominee, regardless of whether you support him or not.
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I think this thread has swerved off the rails to the left, and into a political swamp.
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My using the Trump example wasn’t intended to be anti-Trump, but simply to point out that nobody is immune to very strong, but (provably) false, memories.
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I figured it out. Everyone who remembers the films differently from everyone else were somehow transported to this dimension from a parallel universe when these versions of the movies were the movies shown in theater. I just proved the multiverse theory and offered an explanation for childhood memories which have been proven to be different from reality. Boy, I’m smart.
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I have my own false memory from seeing ESB in a 1981 re-release. When Luke is in the Wampa cave, I have a distinct memory of Obi Wan telling him to use the force telepathically to lift the lightsaber.
When the VHS of ESB came out, I was shocked that Obi Wan’s voice was absent from that scene. I think when I first joined this forum it was one of the first things I asked about. At this point I don’t think that voice over existed but I don’t know how I came up with that as a kid. Unless those re-release prints had some weird meddling by Ben Burtt that is now forgotten in time.
This was in the script exactly the same as you put it.
It is possible that the voice over exists although I never heard it or remember it