team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released) — Page 158

Yeah, his effort was a great proof of concept, but color correction really should be done as far up the line as possible.

Does anybody know how to rip the actual matte painting from the Blu-ray? It might be a nice color reference

As a last resort couldn’t the planets be rotoscoped from a different source?

Dreamaster said:

As a last resort couldn’t the planets be rotoscoped from a different source?

Yes but I think the idea is to have it all from one source.

Just a quick heads up…for some strange reason, the “Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso” appears to have AACS protection AND (I believe as a direct result) would NOT load properly in a “stock” copy of the current VLC (v2.2.4) for Mac and produced the following error message:

Blu-ray error
This Blu-ray Disc needs a library for AACS decoding, and your system does not have it.

SOLUTION:
Please visit http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/ to DL and install the current “Keys database” and “AACS dynamic library” for your Windows, MacOS X or Linux-based system.
[NOTE: Under MacOS X, the “~/lib directory” that you’ll want to copy your DLed “libaacs.dylib” to may be found by right-clicking the VLC app, selecting “Show Package Contents”, and navigating to “~Contents -> MacOS -> lib”.]

This took me a little while to find the above website AND to work through a less than fully clear MacOS instructions.

Huge THANKS go to Williarob and Team Negative1 (and other project contributors) for producing such a quality preservation!

Kind regards,

-A.S.

I might be mistaken, but I think it’s not real AACS encryption. Deleting the AACS folder might be sufficient to getting it to load. Haven’t tested it on this exact release, but it is the case for others built this way.

Darth Lucas said:

Dreamaster said:

As a last resort couldn’t the planets be rotoscoped from a different source?

Yes but I think the idea is to have it all from one source.

Heck… now that I’m looking at it… you could rotoscope it from it’s own source, pre color corrected planet placed on top of post color correction (that fixes the ships), planet. Still a last resort thing though, I know that’s a lot of work.

I don’t think any of that is necessary. If it can be tweaked a bit more, great. But if not, I think it’s good enough as is.

^ Which one are you saying, is which one here?

RU.08 said:

the matte-line is almost non-existent in the 1981 version when compared with the recreation.

Which is why the matte line was painted out of the recreation several versions ago 😉

Ok guys, here is attempt #2. This time I utilized a technique Mike Verta demonstrated in one of his videos to help get rid of some color noise, which helped immensely with getting the color better. I still don’t think it’s perfect, but an improvement nonetheless.

Before:

After:

And tweaked a little more:

Looks great. As is, I can’t skip (fast forward/rewind) during the intro segment if it’s put back into the disc structure and played via the menu. It crashes unless I go back to the start.

Williarob said:

And here is the new Mt2s file (for the '81 crawl only):

https://mega.nz/#!45gFWYCB!0xcOeCA2UrWoH9tVvlXhoTqEmDrS3wB7fVNcObf02MU

Let me know what you think. Also let me know if you can simply swap out the old file of the same name in the iso. if swapping out the file breaks the blu-ray, let me know and I’ll upload all the supporting files…

How would one go about doing that?

A_New_Hope said:

Just a quick heads up…for some strange reason, the “Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso” appears to have AACS protection AND (I believe as a direct result) would NOT load properly in a “stock” copy of the current VLC (v2.2.4) for Mac and produced the following error message:

Blu-ray error
This Blu-ray Disc needs a library for AACS decoding, and your system does not have it.

SOLUTION:
Please visit http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/ to DL and install the current “Keys database” and “AACS dynamic library” for your Windows, MacOS X or Linux-based system.
[NOTE: Under MacOS X, the “~/lib directory” that you’ll want to copy your DLed “libaacs.dylib” to may be found by right-clicking the VLC app, selecting “Show Package Contents”, and navigating to “~Contents -> MacOS -> lib”.]

This took me a little while to find the above website AND to work through a less than fully clear MacOS instructions.

Huge THANKS go to Williarob and Team Negative1 (and other project contributors) for producing such a quality preservation!

Kind regards,

-A.S.

towne32 said:

I might be mistaken, but I think it’s not real AACS encryption. Deleting the AACS folder might be sufficient to getting it to load. Haven’t tested it on this exact release, but it is the case for others built this way.

towne32-
BDInfo ALSO reports AACS encryption (in a scan of the BDMV folder)…

AACS QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6
Disc Size: 40,307,313,340 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 37,538,162,688 bytes
Length: 2:01:15.393
Total Bitrate: 41.28 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 33993 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Spanish / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 31.947 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 31.366 kbps
Subtitle: German / 36.134 kbps
Subtitle: French / 26.990 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 30.846 kbps
Subtitle: Finnish / 30.025 kbps

I am no expert in the field of AACS encryption, however, I might hazard a guess that perhaps some setting in the Blu-ray mastering software used could be the culprit? In any event, while it was a bit of a pain in the ass to find and sort out the details of a workaround…this is certainly NOT a show-stopper.

I expect that the AACS encryption was almost certainly unintentional. My intent in sharing my findings were to report the issue, share the workaround that I found, and IF a v1.6.1, v1.7, or a v2.0 are ever released…addressing the detected AACS encryption could make it into into agenda somewhere?

On behalf of myself (AND my two boys), I do REALLY, REALLY appreciate the fruits of the labors of Williarob and the rest of Team Negative1 (and contributors) for sharing this beautiful “fan preservation” with us!

Cheers!

-A.S.

Thanks Rob. It works in PowerDVD now. I’ll try burning it later.

And yep, ANH, I’ve confirmed that deleting the AACS folder is sufficient. It’s essentially a placeholder for real encryption if the disc were to be pressed. And various playback software packages are too dumb to do anything besides see the folder and flip out. If it were really encrypted, playback would not be possible just by deleting the folder, unless you were running AnyDVD or something. Similarly, just clicking on the m2ts wouldn’t get it to play in VLC, etc.

Darth Lucas said:

Ok guys, here is attempt #2. This time I utilized a technique Mike Verta demonstrated in one of his videos to help get rid of some color noise, which helped immensely with getting the color better. I still don’t think it’s perfect, but an improvement nonetheless.

Did no one else catch this? Who’s volunteering to hold down Darth Lucas and make him clean up all the yellow color noise in the Tatooine desert scenes of 1.6? 😃

Williarob the new crawl is really cool, looks great. Last night I ran old and new side by side, it’s a neat comparison.

Williarob said:

Here is an original, untouched frame for you to play with…

This is what I was able to pull from it: