I probably would have preferred him to maybe choke someone over a tiny mistake or something like that, or maybe just growl at people like he did at the end of ESB (pre-SE).Something to visualize/illustrate his anger without smashing stuff around him.
I would rather him hack someone to bits with his lightsaber or break someone’s neck. Something more brutal to show that this isn’t generic Vader rage but something more
Maybe, it just seems savage even for Vader as far a I’m concerned. Vader used to be tactical and patient, sure he killed a lot of his own men in the OT, but never out of rage. Yes, finding out about Luke is different, I just don’t see the adult Vader doing a Anakin/Kylo moment. Maybe early days Vader, but not post ANH Vader. I feel that with someone like Vader, even if he simply killed an officer for a less-serious mistake than usual that it could convey that he was holding in a lot of frustration and anger.
I also feel that it’s very important that Vader at this point in his life is pretty emotionless and machine-like. He has after all been Vader for almost 20 years at this point. And keep in mind that this is the Vader that killed his old master and friend without any hesitation what-so-ever.
He hated Obi-Wan though…
Yeah, that’s true.
I’ll retract that observation.
Finding out about Luke should be not so much an explosion of feelings, but rather a tiny crack in his emotional barrier which gradually grows over the course of the next-few-years/movies.
If anything finding out Ahsoka was alive would do this minus the gradual growing. Family bonds are different.
I guess. But did he really care for Luke prior to ROTJ? Maybe he did, I just never got that impression. He seemed more interested in killing the Emperor with his help at first. I just don’t really see Vader caring for anyone that much at this stage. Even in ROTJ his immediate reaction to learning about Leia, without hesitation, was again, turning her to the dark side.
Even in ESB, a few years later he’s still emotionally cold enough to cut his own son’s hand off,
That’s true but he had to because Luke wouldn’t give up.
I dunno, there’s plenty of moments there where he’s just pounding on him with his lightsaber. He even has him sucked out a window. Did he actually predict that he would survive that? But, I’ll concede that this scene probably took some liberties for the sake of making the fight interesting.
And when Luke actually drops into the abyss his reaction is surprisingly neutral, disappointment at most.
I think he knew fully that Luke would survive somehow and his reaction was just that. Disappointment.
This I just don’t buy, Luke was clearly ready to die there, and I don’ really see how Vader would have known he would survive. Maybe he knew Luke was alive when he growls at the Imperial officer later on, but when Luke fell I don’t see how he’d assume anything other than that his son was falling to his death.
And I personally think that he is, at least consciously, only seeing Luke as an asset at this point.
It’s not really until ROTJ that he’s starting to show real emotions. That crack has had plenty of time to grow in those years.
Not really. His reaction to the Millennium Falcon escaping at the end of ESB where he turns away then looks back to empty space only to finally walk off is actually telling. Not only that he didn’t even kill the Imperial that failed him. On a side note I can’t believe that scene isn’t up on youtube.
I don’t really see how that’s comparable to finding out about Luke. But still, I honestly wouldn’t have complained if him finding out about Luke had resulted in a similar silent, and in addition, simply thoughtful, kind of a moment.
You know what, I’m not even sure why I’m arguing against this story, I haven’t even read the whole thing, just what I could find online + what’s been posted on the forum. I’m probably just tired of seeing this Vader; https://66.media.tumblr.com/8325f965faf10d6e8fc002f612fee202/tumblr_miznvdiK991rkvurgo1_500.jpg
http://i.stack.imgur.com/R1dGS.jpg
and much prefer the darker and more menacing villain that he used to be. I don’t mind there being emotional depth to the character, I just think that it’s been somewhat cheaply, or at least too “obviously” done in the last ten years.
I think it boils down to why I prefer the original version of the scene in ROTJ where Vader decides to save Luke as opposed to the SE version. The original is subtle, but still conveys great emotional depth. The new version more-or-less does the same, but it’s too blatant and in-your-face.