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Post #954991

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ZkinandBonez
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Star Wars Canon EU (potential spoilers)
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Date created
17-Jun-2016, 5:27 PM

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Lord Haseo said:

One of he things that I liked with old EU stories is that they would acknowledge Vader’s feelings, but without having him smash stuff in the process (SOTE is a good example of this). He tended to keep it to himself.

I think it depends on the situation. Finding out that your Master lied to you about killing your pregnant wife and kids is something that warrants some anger. Visible anger. No one other than a droid would be able to hold that in.

You know I could be cheeky and simply write “he’s more machine than man, now”, but I more or less agree with you. Smashing the bridge of a Star Destroyer however just seems a tad silly and reckless to me, and as I mentioned, a bit too obviously taken from ROTS. I probably would have preferred him to maybe choke someone over a tiny mistake or something like that, or maybe just growl at people like he did at the end of ESB (pre-SE). Something to visualize/illustrate his anger without smashing stuff around him. Had it been a novel I think I’d simply preferred a description of his frustration/anger/etc. (maybe him snapping at some officers, etc.), but I understand that a comic needs to visualize this anger. This new version however just has too much of a Hayden-Anakin-vibe for me.
I’m not really saying it’s terrible, I just find it to be a bit too much.

I also feel that it’s very important that Vader at this point in his life is pretty emotionless and machine-like. He has after all been Vader for almost 20 years at this point. And keep in mind that this is the Vader that killed his old master and friend without any hesitation what-so-ever. Finding out about Luke should be not so much an explosion of feelings, but rather a tiny crack in his emotional barrier which gradually grows over the course of the next-few-years/movies. Even in ESB, a few years later he’s still emotionally cold enough to cut his own son’s hand off, and when he actually thinks he’s died, he only grows a bit at his men. And when Luke actually drops into the abyss his reaction is surprisingly neutral, disappointment at most. It’s not really until ROTJ that he’s starting to show real emotions. That crack has had plenty of time to grow in those years.

(PS, my first statement about Vader throwing tantrums wasn’t directed at this comic in specific, I just find a lot of the post ROTS Vader stories to be kind of annoying. Even the Dark Horse comics over-used ROTS references for several years. (Seriously, for a couple of years every Vader comic I read had him experience random flash-backs to Padme. I get that they wanted to acknowledge the PT, but it got tiresome really fast, and it did make Vader seem like an moody teenager). Over-all I think Disney is actually doing it pretty well so far. Although I haven’t seen any episodes of Rebels, I did read somewhere that they were told to not humanize Vader since it was pre-ESB/ROTJ, and that he should more-or-less just be a cold-hearted killing machine.)

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Lord Haseo said:

But even that reaction is up for interpretation.

It was released pre ESB, was it not? If so then it shouldn’t be. At that time Vader was just a one dimensional (but great) baddie. He wasn’t like the Vader of ESB and ROTJ and Kylo Ren.

Totally, what I meant was that it was ambiguous enough to be interpreted from a post-ESB standpoint, hence I don’t need to alter anything in my personal head-canon.
But yes, it was definitely intended to be the pre-Luke’s-father, purely an evil guy, Vader.