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If they release the theatrical with the 81 crawl I will be FUCKING PISSED.
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3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000
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My guess is that this poster is just meant to illustrate the age of the saga in comparison to TFA - a 40 year old poster achieves this far better than a 20 year old poster could.
However, if they’re only doing a “Standard” screening, RotJ would be more ideal to show to illustrate the films continuation.
Likely, ANH will be the first of the 3D OT showings to follow up AotC and RotS last year.
Unless they’re testing to gauge interest (which honestly is stupid because the general rule of Star Wars is “If you sell it, they will buy”, I think they’d be smart enough to advertise heavily that this is a newly remastered NON-SE version. Fox/Lucas may have not understood or cared, but Disney has always pushed the “fresh from the vaults, newly remastered, anniversary edition” harder than any other company I’ve seen.
As for the 77 with 81 crawl, I think that is highly dependent on how the film is being released. A standalone 40th anniversary edition next year would be a great opportunity for the original crawl. However, if they release an Original Unaltered Trilogy, I think it more likely that we’ll get the 81 crawl (which is all that was available on video for years with minimal complaints). Certainly if they go to the effort of releasing them, I’d hope they put the effort into seamless branching. I personally like the continuity of the 81 crawl better so that one positive piece of the GOUT featuring the 77 was just another negative for me.
also… in defense of us millennials - keep in mind that older generations grew up with only 3 movies. Those movies were heavily advertised by their titles. Star Wars at that point was one movie that was such a huge phenomenon that EVERYONE knew about it. ESB and RotJ didn’t even have to be advertised with the SW title attached because everyone was (or knew someone who was) waiting impatiently for them. For nearly 20 years, whenever you talked about the films, you said SW, ESB, and ROTJ
I was 9 when Phantom Menace came out - and thus began a different Marketing strategy. All you kept hearing was Star Wars: Episode 1. Suddenly “Star Wars” was more ambiguous, especially since everyone was talking about the new movie. “Have you seen the new Star Wars trailer” (because who wants to say Star Wars: Episode 1 every time? and unlike the OT, “The Phantom Menace” was not a title you could say and everyone knew what you meant.)
Then came the other two, with more of the same. To this day, when I say TPM people ask “That’s Episode 1 right?”
With “Star Wars” as a title now more confusing, most people still didn’t jump on the A New Hope bandwagon - the title just never seemed to be incredibly inspired, though the vast majority of us know which film it refers to. Instead, people tried initially to call it Episode IV, but that felt too weird when talking about the original movie. Instead, you started hearing “Star Wars: The Original Movie” and “Star Wars: The First One” (I actually hear this one more often, which is amusing considering the small level of confusion it causes with TPM).
Consider this as well: TFA used the same (or very similar) advertising concept as the OT. The “Episode 7” pushes were kept minimal, returning instead to a focus on the title. Over the last 4 years, I’ve steadily felt “The Force Awakens” become a part of the general population’s consciousness.
So, as a millennial (or close to it), I’ve found the general view of the people I know is the films are thought of as Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3, The First One, ESB, RotJ, TFA. Without the luxury of 20 years of practice calling the movie Star Wars, and due to deliberate creative advertising decisions, I think it’s a little unfair to blame us for this.
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nightstalkerpoet said:
I think it’s a little unfair to blame us for this.
Which is why you’re a Millennial.
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Goddamn, lol
Seeking only the most natural looking colors for Star Wars '77
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If star wars isn’t episode IV, why is ESB episode V? I know it’s a change, but it’s a change made before ROTJ even came out. Nobody cared until 1997.
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Maybe between Star Wars and ESB, there were three other episodes, that we just missed 😉
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What’s the point of an unaltered release if it has the 81 crawl? Star Wars was released in 77, NOT 81.
Star Wars is Star Wars. If we get an “original theatrical version” called A New Hope I will be mighty displeased.
Sincerely,
A Filthy Millennial
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Well, it would have a wealth of HD original shots to make a pretty incredible fan-edited version including whatever crawl variation you want (I personally prefer the Markdown Syntax text). And 99% of people outside of this forum who want the OOT would probably be satisfied enough with it as-is. So, while not perfect, it would hardly be pointless.
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And 99% of people outside of this forum who want the OOT would probably be satisfied enough with it as-is.
As they would be if it had the original crawl.
Yeah, it wouldn’t be “pointless” but it would be an unnecessary subversion of the “unaltered” intent.
Basically, there’s no reason to do it except to perpetuate the fact that the unaltered version hasn’t been released.
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Let’s be honest here. The SEs, regardless of whether or not we see an unaltered release, aren’t going anywhere. That version will still have IV ANH, so why not make the “other” version as different as possible to increase its novelty?
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
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Yes, or rather as original as possible.
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I know that we are abusing this thread here with the “What will they show on the Celebration in London” (and I should have post it in another thread maybe, but my first thought was that this could relate to Mike’s ongoing meetings with Disney/Lucasfilm), but I sent the Celebration team a message on Facebook, regarding what version we’re going to see (Blu-ray, 2004 DVD, SE or the “Original Edition”. They’ve read my message over a day ago but didn’t reply.
You can call me a dreamer, but I’m collecting all possible hints. Even the trivial ones, hehe… Maybe they are not allowed to talk about the version, since it’s going to be an on location surprise…
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If there ever will be an official German Blu-ray of the OOT, I hope that they’ll put the German crawl (including “Krieg der Sterne” instead of “Star Wars”) on it.
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nightstalkerpoet said:
I think it’s a little unfair to blame us for this.Which is why you’re a Millennial.
I laughed.
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if the SW Celebration was celebrated at April 1st, they would play the GOUT-DVD to troll the people.
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I don’t know what crawl a screening would have, but I can’t imagine an official blu-ray release that doesn’t include both. Releasing the unaltered cuts at all blows the idea that Disney would want to impose one particular official version to hell, and putting them both on there with seamless branching is just too easy to not do, especially since there’s such a difference of opinion about the issue. I think the only real question is whether they use the proper '81 for the ANH crawl or the one from the SE.
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Releasing the unaltered cuts at all blows the idea that Disney would want to impose one particular official version to hell, and putting them both on there with seamless branching is just too easy to not do, especially since there’s such a difference of opinion about the issue.
True, though I wonder if they care. I know if we were all in charge it would have every single variation imaginable. But I don’t think it’s all that important to them. Where do they stop with including the variations? My bet is they settle for just two distinct different versions: 77 and 11.
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I’d be fine with that. I want the ANH crawl for internal consistency more than period authenticity. My dream releases would be a standard version with the ANH subtitle and a Criterion-style premium '77 with different color timing and less grain reduction, but I know that’s pie-in-the-sky thinking.
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If star wars isn’t episode IV, why is ESB episode V? I know it’s a change, but it’s a change made before ROTJ even came out. Nobody cared until 1997.
To be fair, no one knew what a slippery slope of endless alteration would be heralded by the acceptance of that first notable change (ignoring '77 audio mix inconsistencies). It wasn’t a big deal then, but now it is basically “first blood” in this war of SE aggression, which is why many of us are adamant about rolling the changes all the way back (past changes predating the SEs). I, for one, was a little miffed when I found that I grew up watching a version of Star Wars that was modified more than just to “fit my screen”. I’ve developed a new fondness and attachment to the '77 crawl since then, and whenever I think of the '81 crawl what should be nostalgia for it has been replaced with distinctly negative feelings about the lie it was perpetrating.
(And, Hell, if they’d even at least used the original star field and tried to make it all aesthetically fit the original, that might have been one thing, but it is the freaking ESB star field, and if the current SSEv1.6’s '81 crawl is at all accurate, it stands out like a sore thumb. Lazy and shoddy, no thank you.)
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Harmy said:
Maybe between Star Wars and ESB, there were three other episodes, that we just missed 😉
I’d rather have had that than what we were given!
For me, it’s the original crawl or nothing.
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nightstalkerpoet said:
I think it’s a little unfair to blame us for this.Which is why you’re a Pesky Whipper-Snapper.
We get blamed for everything. I’ve gotten used to it by now. I also use a Chrome extension that changes every instance of the word “millennial” to “pesky whipper-snapper”, exposing our feelings towards older generations using it as a derogatory term. An older generation, mind you, that is largely to blame for their own complaints against us.
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It also edited your quote, which makes it even better.
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I honestly don’t even care which crawl we get so long as I don’t have to sit through Han stepping on Jabba’s tail again!
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I honestly don’t even care which crawl we get so long as I don’t have to sit through Han stepping on Jabba’s tail again!
Or to watch that stupid noise making flying droid in Mos Eisley which get slammed down on the ground by the other droid… Well, I can’t tell what’s more annoying.
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nightstalkerpoet said:
I think it’s a little unfair to blame us for this.Which is why you’re a Millennial.
We get blamed for everything. I’ve gotten used to it by now. I also use a Chrome extension that changes every instance of the word “millennial” to “pesky whipper-snapper”, exposing our feelings towards older generations using it as a derogatory term. An older generation, mind you, that is largely to blame for their own complaints against us.
I fall into a gap which is covered by both the end of GenX and the start of Millennial, and the lunacy of these safe space loving hippy dippy retards (it is okay, Frink, I’m using the Chaz_Solo definition) has driven me to associate with the older generation (which is my right), as being in the position of being close to and having to chose between them has made me acutely aware of just what has gone so horribly wrong with this touchy feely, everybody gets a medal (hell they don’t even have to show up), special snowflake generation; though make no mistake, yes, I’ve been lucky enough to be able to disassociate from Millennial, but I’m not one of the ones that handed you this sugar coated world, and I still judge you Millenials from what was should be a neutral perspective (being between those that caused problems [and over-protected the Millenials], and those younger folk that were presented with some bad advice/examples growing up, but still could have chosen not to drink that Kool-Aid). I saw all of these changes that messed up the Millenials go into effect behind me throughout my life, like the boulder that chased Indiana Jones. Yes, you were dealt a weak hand, but you guys could really try harder as a whole to make up for it… There is plenty the older generations did wrong to the Millennials, but there is PLENTY the Millennials can do to improve things, and they’re not doing it, they’re just bitching.