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towne32 said:
Do you mean they extracted it and rebuilt it for the spleen version?

I was referring to this post.

SnooPac said:
The version that ended up on spleen was just the exact extracted ISO from Usenet. No changes were made. Not intentionally, anyway.

I took it to mean that the ISO had been extracted – somebody always does this. People don’t always view extracting it as changing it, which is how I interpreted the second half of the post. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but it’s happened before that extracting the ISO has caused problems with checksums and the like.

Only available on spleen and usenet, correct?? I loved the first version but v1.6 looks even more incredible! I want to make some space on my hard drive for this, but seems like there are some issues with it…

Chewtobacca said:

This happens every time someone extracts the ISO. Why extract it? Why do anything to it?

In general, I agree Chewie. But, my favorite method of viewing downloads lately is to put it on a USB drive and plug into my Blu-Ray player. My Blu-Ray player is not smart enough to know what to do with an iso. Just sayin’.

-G

Chewtobacca said:

towne32 said:
Do you mean they extracted it and rebuilt it for the spleen version?

I was referring to this post.

SnooPac said:
The version that ended up on spleen was just the exact extracted ISO from Usenet. No changes were made. Not intentionally, anyway.

I took it to mean that the ISO had been extracted – somebody always does this. People don’t always view extracting it as changing it, which is how I interpreted the second half of the post. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but it’s happened before that extracting the ISO has caused problems with checksums and the like.

Oh okay. I was pretty sure that this was about extracting from rar files. I do not believe rar files are allowed on the spleen (nor is there any need for them for a torrent, really).

I’m not even sure what issues there are with the iso file on myspleen. I have it and it seems fine to me. Since someone requested an mkv file I went ahead and extracted it (minus the Spanish audio track) and uploaded it for them and from what I can tell the file plays fine as well. I wasn’t trying to rock the boat so to speak since I know some folks out there cannot burn an iso to blu,etc.
I’m a complete novice at this and in no way take credit for any of the work involved that others have put into this (and I speak for myself when I say I am completely appreciative of the fact that there are those who have logged an insurmountable number of hours working on these projects).

I am certain the difference between the files is minor. I haven’t tried to do a binary diff since these files are huge, bit since the torrent hashes to 99 percent it is probably only one block that is different. I will check closer.

So this really is just about ensuring that the exact same file is being shared in all locations. Might seem picky, but I hate having inconsistencies like this.

g-force said:
In general, I agree Chewie. But, my favorite method of viewing downloads lately is to put it on a USB drive and plug into my Blu-Ray player. My Blu-Ray player is not smart enough to know what to do with an iso. Just sayin’.

That’s true, but I’m talking about redistributing the original upload in a way in which people can have confidence that they have what is legit/uncorrupt. We’ve had all sorts of problems in the past when people get hold of corrupt copies. The confusion caused tends to run on and on and clog up threads. (It’s a bit like when studios release fixed versions of discs but vendors don’t replace their stock, so the threads on Blu-ray.com are filled with people asking about disc codes and marks on packaging and the like.)

towne32 said:
Oh okay. I was pretty sure that this was about extracting from rar files.

Ah, so the archive was extracted, rather than the ISO. That’s different. I didn’t imagine that someone would put rar files on the spleen.

Williarob said:

Meanwhile, just for fun and because I enjoy tinkering in After Effects, I put together this short parody-promo video:

That was really cool and entertaining 😃

Williarob said:

dahmage said:

So, am i crazy?

the file i downloaded from a.b.starwars hashes differently from what is on the spleen. the torrent checked to like 99% from what i had. anyone else have the same? i even re-extracted from the rar’s and got the same difference:

Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from a.b.starwars
sha1sum: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
sha256sum: 916de560acd1a9f40f564909aea9c37a78ef8da0fe44a0260157ae62fd243263

Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from myspleen
sha1sum: 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
sha256sum: 183e36fe4591e7f947b9d63d07f1bb920f1039a35e9853355d835e3a33df132f

I have:

Name: Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso
Date: 6/12/2016
Size: 37 GB (1,654,128,640 bytes)

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SHA-1: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
MD5: f9556d51e8cd6647ac076d7b8284f896
CRC32: 68e66e85

Now this is fascinating…

I downloaded the ISO from usenet and my SHA checksum is 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
So do I have the “corrupt” version? That would explain why Kodi refuses to play it. But shouldn’t the usenet version be the “correct” version?

pittrek said:

Williarob said:

dahmage said:

So, am i crazy?

the file i downloaded from a.b.starwars hashes differently from what is on the spleen. the torrent checked to like 99% from what i had. anyone else have the same? i even re-extracted from the rar’s and got the same difference:

Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from a.b.starwars
sha1sum: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
sha256sum: 916de560acd1a9f40f564909aea9c37a78ef8da0fe44a0260157ae62fd243263

Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from myspleen
sha1sum: 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
sha256sum: 183e36fe4591e7f947b9d63d07f1bb920f1039a35e9853355d835e3a33df132f

I have:

Name: Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso
Date: 6/12/2016
Size: 37 GB (1,654,128,640 bytes)

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SHA-1: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
MD5: f9556d51e8cd6647ac076d7b8284f896
CRC32: 68e66e85

Now this is fascinating…

I downloaded the ISO from usenet and my SHA checksum is 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
So do I have the “corrupt” version? That would explain why Kodi refuses to play it. But shouldn’t the usenet version be the “correct” version?

Hah. fascinating indeed. i got it from usenet as well, but mine matches what williarob has.

do you still have the RAR files? what crc value does it show for the file? when i view the rar file using 7-zip, it shows the correct crc value for what williarob posted…

Very strange that there are two distinct versions coming from usenet. Maybe people who have each version should compare checksums of the rars themselves.

I have unfortunately deleted the rar files immediately, I don’t have so much free disk space 😦

Jedit : Wait a moment, I have now realized I am helping seeding the myspleen torrent. I have a bad feeling that uTorrent has rewritten some of the bytes of the ISO to “comply” with the ISO shared on myspleen 😦

Yep, the myspeen torrent probably modified your file.

Here is difference i have found so far:

a.b.starwars blocks 20004-20078:
CA 00 01 00 D2 2D 7E 00 40 00 00 00 10 1F E0 07 06 0C 0E 29 29 3C 50 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 51 2C 01 A0 00 00 00 00 2A 49 6D 67 42 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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myspleen blocks 20004-20078:
53 00 01 00 D0 B8 7E 00 40 00 00 00 10 1F E0 07 06 0D 09 32 06 07 4B 21 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 51 2C 01 A0 00 00 00 00 2A 49 6D 67 42 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04

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Williarob said:

Chewtobacca said:

This happens every time someone extracts the ISO. Why extract it? Why do anything to it?

Honestly, after all the hard work that went into making it a proper blu-ray, it pains me to see people just ripping out the video to make MKVs, but I get it.

Well, it was bound to happen immediately, as people are quite fond of hairy_hen’s 5.1 mix, it is honestly the only way I seriously view the movie these days. I appreciate the effort that went into SSE 1.6 and will archive it in full quality to disc once the last few bugs are worked out, but without the 5.1, it is more of a novelty to me than a completed product I’d watch by default. I know that 5.1 isn’t exactly something that would have gone along with a 35mm print, and that’s fine, though there does frustratingly seem to be room left on the disc to fit it… Anyway, I’ll archive it, but will most likely instead keep handy an extracted '77 crawl MKV with the DTS-HD MA 5.1, for actual viewing.

Not trying to push a point, just saying that not including the 5.1 creates a fervor to rip the GOUT synced movie out and put them together as quickly as possible; which sadly makes the effort of the Blu-ray menus, etc. seem under appreciated, and I feel for you for that.

^ I’d have included the 5.1 for that reason. Adding it is probably the biggest single reason why people remux.

pittrek said:

Now this is fascinating…

I downloaded the ISO from usenet and my SHA checksum is 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
So do I have the “corrupt” version? That would explain why Kodi refuses to play it. But shouldn’t the usenet version be the “correct” version?

I was about to mention the same thing, which has bothered me for a while, Kodi has steadfastly refused to play the ISO for me, if I select to navigate into the image instead and launch the individual .m2ts files, they play (actually, trying to play the ISO wasn’t refused, it just sits there forever and generally forces me to have to kill the whole process to recover). Has anyone gotten the “correct” version of the ISO to play under Kodi?

yoda-sama said:

pittrek said:

Now this is fascinating…

I downloaded the ISO from usenet and my SHA checksum is 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
So do I have the “corrupt” version? That would explain why Kodi refuses to play it. But shouldn’t the usenet version be the “correct” version?

I was about to mention the same thing, which has bothered me for a while, Kodi has steadfastly refused to play the ISO for me, if I select to navigate into the image instead and launch the individual .m2ts files, they play (actually, trying to play the ISO wasn’t refused, it just sits there forever and generally forces me to have to kill the whole process to recover). Has anyone gotten the “correct” version of the ISO to play under Kodi?

no, Kodi just doesn’t like these disks.

Sorry don’t have time to read all these messages (will eventually) but I’ll try to quickly answer a few.

Chewtobacca said:

This happens every time someone extracts the ISO. Why extract it? Why do anything to it?

By “extracted”, its meant extracted from rar to iso. Iso not modified (intentionally).
And this is a rule on myspleen that the rars need to be extracted.

dahmage said:

Well, SnooPac do you mind if i replace your upload with the fixed file or do you want to fix it? good news is it should only require minor download to sync the changes.

Go ahead. I think it will just be 1 or 2 torrent segments that are bad. Would be nice if you have the ability to diff. I’m curious if its just a few bytes that are bad or something more significant. Even if its just 1%, 1% of that many GB could still be a lot. Probably best to keep file name the same so torrent clients just auto “overwrite” my file and complete the few missing bad bytes? Can also delete the first torrent.

Also I would have tried to confirm the hash after extracting, but I couldn’t find it. Sorry all, my bad.

dahmage said:
no, Kodi just doesn’t like these disks.

To be specific, the logs report that Kodi believes the disc to be AACS-protected and hence unplayable. Copying the BDMV folder onto another disc and pointing Kodi at that works fine.

I suspect it’s a bug in Kodi’s player, tbh. The disc contains an AACS folder; perhaps Kodi spots this and just assumes that the disc must be protected rather than trying to decode the stream.

would anyone be willing to keep the blu ray as is but just shrink it down to a bd 25 instead of a bd 50 a lot of ppl cant afford dual layer bdrs keeping the menus and everything intact everything the same as the bd 50 just shrink it to a bd 25 just a thought

SnooPac said:
By “extracted”, its meant extracted from rar to iso. Iso not modified (intentionally).

Got it!

And this is a rule on myspleen that the rars need to be extracted.

Of course! That was never the issue.

If a fix is going up on myspleen, I would definitely suggest making it bold and clear that people can (hopefully) just use their existing download to quickly patch up with the new torrent.

Yeah,

i really don’t know what is best at this point, a new torrent is sure to confuse. but the sooner it gets corrected, the better.

It is only one piece that would need to be downloaded if you download to the same file (2 MB)

After looking at the binary diff, all the changes seem to be in the file header, it looks like the author or maybe an authoring date got changed? but How?