Compiling an accurate list may take quite some time, but I will work on it when time permits. I used to have several VCRs, then later DVD Recorders, going all the time, so I did capture quite a few things off-air that were never re-broadcast. I also have some Japanese laserdisc boxsets, so I know that a lot was never released commercially for the home video market. I’ll see what I can do…
I remembered that I had these two Star Wars unopened VHS tapes sitting in a box that had things in it that I used to sell at science fiction conventions. Are these of any value to anyone? Have the contents been released on a DVD or Blu-ray? I also have a Laserdisc of the other picture, the ST 25th Anniversary Special. I don’t think it was ever released on DVD(?)
I don’t think anyone has preserved the 25th anniversary special yet. There have been a couple projects ongoing for the Star Wars docs.
That version of The Making Of Star Wars you have actually replaces the original William Conrad narration! The original made it onto the Blu Ray boxset, but a really old analog video master was used, so it looks awful.
Where were you in '77?
Here’s a scan of an ad I have for you from People magazine in 1985.
Cool! I have a scan of a video sales flyer for The Ewok Adventure somewhere.
The overseas theatrical one sheet for BFE is hilarious if you’ve never seen it.
No, I don’t know who the Han Solo looking guy in the middle is either…
Where were you in '77?
That truly is hilarious! I’ve never seen it before and obviously the artist never saw anything related to Star Wars, either. That would scare the crap out of kids, no, wait, adults as well!! Thanks for posting that. Though I never specifically collected many Star Wars things, (my first loves are Planet of the Apes (1968) and the original Star Trek series and films), I have quite a few related things in my collection that go back to the first movie’s premiere. I still have some magazines, including the original movie program that I got at the cinema, so when I come across related material I’ll set them aside. I have to find new homes for a lot of my things, as my basement looks like the final scene from “Raiders of the Lost Ark”…
Speaking of Indy, you wouldn’t happen to have the Making of Temple of Doom? It was only shown on PBS twice, I think. Never released on home video either. I have my tv recording preserved, but the quality isn’t great.
Where were you in '77?
That Making of Star Wars VHS with Don LaFontaine ought to be preserved.
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Wow, I do remember that. I will make a note of it to check. Just FYI, I have articles, all types of media, etc. going back to around 1968. Subjects include: 2001/2010, POTA, CE3K, James Bond, The Prisoner, MASH, and many other science fiction and fantasy films and television series. So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask. If I would leave this mortal coil tomorrow, my wife would make sure the recyclers would find a lot in the alley!
There’s a 2001 project around here somewhere that would probably be interested in some of that.
Where were you in '77?
That Making of Star Wars VHS with Don LaFontaine ought to be preserved.
Is that who they replaced William Conrad with? The audio ought to be easy enough to preserve, as I presume the rest is unchanged?
Where were you in '77?
There’s such little info for that tape that I wouldn’t know. My first instinct is that it’s probably unchanged, apart from narration of course.
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So you have the 25th anniversary of Star Trek documentary, that’s great. Do you by any chance have the 30th anniversary show? The best version I could find had burnt-in Japanese subtitles in the picture.
Also - The Star Trek Saga : From One Generation To The Next - Silverwook preserved his off-air broadcast, which is unfortunately incomplete and has weird colours (similar to the first season TNG telecine). I know it was released also on laserdisc.
The Star Trek Logs - An MTV Big Picture Special Edition - a few recordings are on youtube, usually in crappy quality. Hosted by Marina Sirtis as Troi, filmed on the Enterprise D bridge and promoting Star Trek 6.
EPKs - I have the electronic press kits to TNG launch, TNG finale and DS9 launch.
Movie magic - was the documentary series released? I remember seeing them on TV 2 decades ago and I know some episodes are on youtube. There were at least 2 episodes for Star Trek DS9
Launch of Star Trek Voyager - this was a Sci-fi channel special, which brings me back to the Sci-fi channel special editions 😃
If you could do a preservation of any of that, it would be great for the 50th anniversary 😃
Some Trek tv specials have never seen a home video release, or only came out as part of Japanese Laserdisc boxsets which are still hard to come by, and terribly expensive.
Do you know which boxsets? I can try looking for them.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00114/PILF-1615/Star-Trek😮riginal-Series-log.1 (This has the full color The Cage tv special hosted by Patrick Stewart)
http://www.blam1.com/StarTrek/PILF-161516.htm
I was mistaken in that all the other specials did come out separately in Japan.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11059/PILF-2791/Star-trek:-30-Years-and-Beyond
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11060/PILF-2792/Inside-Star-Trek:-The-Real-Story
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11061/PILF-2793/Journey’s-End:-The-Saga-of-Star-Trek-TNG
Where were you in '77?
Journey’s end came out on both VHS and DVD
I would not have guessed that from the asking price for the sole copy for sale on the LDDB. 😉
Where were you in '77?
A few points: I do have the ST 25th on both VHS and LD. I no longer have any of the other LD’s previously mentioned. Forgive the ignorance, but since I found this site from a search, I have no idea what you all mean by “preserving” things. Are you a loosely affiliated group of people that work together trying to save video onto digital formats? Are there groups dedicated to particular projects? Also, are you looking for video only, or printed media as well? I have tens of thousands of pages of printed media as well as recorded media and am happy to share whatever what I can.
I believe I have a 30th Anniversary ST special that was on TV, is that you are speaking of? I know I don’t have one on LD. I may have “The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next” recorded off-air, but I am not positive.
I have “Journey’s End” on VHS only. I also have, “William Shatner’s ST Memories”, “Inside Star Trek: The Real Story”, “DS9: BTS” and “William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy: The 25 Year Mission”, all on VHS.
The “Star Wars vs Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues” DVD had some previously unseen outtakes from “Star Trek V” and perhaps other material on it as well. It was a very strange release. I have it but haven’t seen it in quite some time.
I don’t have any of the MTV ST Logs.
I’m almost positive that I have an excellent Beta recording of “Star Trek Voyager: Inside the New Adventures” that aired on UPN.
Do you have copies of the “Star Wars Trilogy: The Definitive Collection” on Laserdisc? If memory serves, you would have to have several copies of the video content for each of the several audio commentaries, if some of them overlapped, which I believe they did. I have my box and would have to check the listings to be sure.
Also, has anyone put the many deleted scenes from “A New Hope” that were on the “Making Magic” cd-rom? I can’t get my copy to work on Windows 10, but I think they were excellent.
If you could let me know what, if any, of the titles I mentioned above are of interest to any group(s), I will make a note of it. Thanks.
A few points: I do have the ST 25th on both VHS and LD. I no longer have any of the other LD’s previously mentioned. Forgive the ignorance, but since I found this site from a search, I have no idea what you all mean by “preserving” things. Are you a loosely affiliated group of people that work together trying to save video onto digital formats? Are there groups dedicated to particular projects?
OK “preserving” for the purpose of this site means “transferring films / TV shows / TV specials / documentaries which exist only in archaic (usually analogue) media to modern digital formats so that anybody has still access to them years later”.
Some people work alone, some people work in groups.
The final “products”, usually DVDs, mkv files or these days even AVCHDs and BluRays are then “shared” inside the “community” in a way which is prohibited to talk about publicly.
Also, are you looking for video only, or printed media as well? I have tens of thousands of pages of printed media as well as recorded media and am happy to share whatever what I can.
Depends on the project. Printed media are usually considered great bonus features to DVDs / Bluray discs.
I believe I have a 30th Anniversary ST special that was on TV, is that you are speaking of? I know I don’t have one on LD. I may have “The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next” recorded off-air, but I am not positive.
The only things I remember from the 30th anniversary was a Voyager/Frasier crossover and a Kenny G musical number. Plus people talking in an auditorium why Star Trek is/was important for them.
I have “Journey’s End” on VHS only. I also have, “William Shatner’s ST Memories”, “Inside Star Trek: The Real Story”, “DS9: BTS” and “William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy: The 25 Year Mission”, all on VHS.
The “Star Wars vs Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues” DVD had some previously unseen outtakes from “Star Trek V” and perhaps other material on it as well. It was a very strange release. I have it but haven’t seen it in quite some time.
Hm, neer heard about those outtakes. Are they different from those released on the Star Trek 5 DVD?
I don’t have any of the MTV ST Logs.
I’m almost positive that I have an excellent Beta recording of “Star Trek Voyager: Inside the New Adventures” that aired on UPN.
Is it this one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO3TjPqsIEQ
That would maybe also be worth preserving.
Do you have copies of the “Star Wars Trilogy: The Definitive Collection” on Laserdisc? If memory serves, you would have to have several copies of the video content for each of the several audio commentaries, if some of them overlapped, which I believe they did. I have my box and would have to check the listings to be sure.
Some people have it here, there are even a few DVD preservations of this set.
Also, has anyone put the many deleted scenes from “A New Hope” that were on the “Making Magic” cd-rom? I can’t get my copy to work on Windows 10, but I think they were excellent.
There is a DVD preservation of those scenes and it looks pretty good as far as I can remember. Also most of them are on the 2011 Blu-ray set.
If you could let me know what, if any, of the titles I mentioned above are of interest to any group(s), I will make a note of it. Thanks.
Speeking for myself, I’d be interested in practically anything you mentioned in your post and the Sc-fi channels SEs 😃 I know, I’m greedy.
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I have articles, all types of media, etc. going back to around 1968. Subjects include: 2001/2010, POTA, CE3K, James Bond, The Prisoner, MASH, and many other science fiction and fantasy films and television series. So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask.
ST2112, not to derail, but do you have any recordings related to Hercules: The Legendary Journeys or Xena: Warrior Princess? I’m working on preserving all the promos, commercials and assorted advertising for these shows.
Even if you weren’t taping those shows, DS9 and Herc/Xena were both syndicated on the WB at about the same time (1994-1999 overlap) – so if you were taping DS9 then you’ll likely have a whole pile of “this week on Xena!” promos hidden in the commercial breaks, or under the end credits.
Please let me know! Thanks!
Thanks so much for the quick and informative reply. I think it’s great that there are dedicated people trying to preserve these “lost” pieces of history. I think it’s shameful that creators/companies often don’t make an effort to re-release things that were put out originally. I know it’s often due to “copyrights”, “Contractual Obligations” and of course, money, but if it was out once, it ought to be released again. I especially hate it when, for instance, extras are not carried over to an updated release. So, good luck on all your efforts. Don’t even get me started on Lucas and his endless tinkering of “Star Wars”. I want exactly what I saw in 1977, and in better quality than Laserdisc…
Have you ever compared what Spielberg said about “CE3K” in the Laserdisc releases for the original cut and the longer version? He’s completely dishonest about why he made the longer version, it’s sad. I can’t remember if his remarks carried over to any of the DVD or BD releases.
When the original “Planet of the Apes” films and television series were originally broadcast on network television in the early 1970’s, way before the advent of home video, I would record the dialogue off the TV onto cassettes and listen to them. That was the only way to enjoy your favourite things until their next transmission.
I can also relate to your efforts in preserving things as they were originally released. Decades ago I taped the POTA TV series when they became a series of 2 hour movies and then added that missing footage to the run when they appeared in their original form on cable, though heavily edited! Remember, I did this all without the aid of any computer programs, just linking VCR’s together.
I’m very glad that I’ve saved all the material I taped over the last 33 years, as I figured it may be lost forever if someone didn’t save it. Being a huge ST fan, I tried to tape everything I could when each movie came out, often running several VCR’s at once.
I totally understand the “nothing to see her…move along…nudge, nudge, wink, wink…” aspect as well!
I forgot to add “Logan’s Run” to my faves and collection list. I wish the later formats of many films released on Laserdisc incorporated all the printed material extras that were on them. Some of the supplements were extensive. I also have three or four VHS tapes of extras from the 1st “X-Files” movie and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
As I recall, the extras on the “Star Wars vs Star Trek” were NOT on the STV DVD extras disc. I haven’t seen it in years, but remember being blown away when they showed up. I even made a note of it somewhere. I’d have to see it again to be sure.
As I’ve indicated, I’ve done all of my recording over the years on the (then) popular home video formats. I am not computer savvy at all and haven’t transferred anything to a hard drive before. My question is, would it be best for you to have the original source when you’re doing your preserving? I assume it would, as the best that I can do is copy them to DVD’s at XP speed for the very best DVD quality. Does putting them directly onto a computer skip a whole generation of loss in quality? If so, we’ll have to figure out a way for you guys to get my originals.
Living in the Chicago area I often find the strangest things. Just today I came across a still sealed package of Beta L-750 tapes at a thrift store! Crazy. Also, the controversy surrounding Lucas’ museum is heating up again here. It just may end up in our city after all. Another hideous piece of crap to sit right next to the abomination that has become Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears, right on our beautiful lakefront. Oh well…
Oh, and you’re not being greedy, I still get excited when I see/hear of things that I love that I’ve never seen before! I’ll start documenting what I have it greater detail.
I may be wrong, but I think I also have something taped off-air that featured Mark Hamill hosting a Star Wars or science fiction themed program. Any ideas on what that could have been? I have it somewhere… Yes, I think I do have that Voyager program that’s from Youtube, thanks. It came on right before the premiere in 1995 and mine should be in FAR better quality. I’ll let you know.
I also still have my off air recordings of “Harsh Realm”, “Starman” and other things that have original bumpers, etc. that didn’t make it onto official releases. I was very into “Starman”, and was involved with trying to get in renewed, along with the “Spotlight Starman” group. I have many of their original newsletters, etc. I even won an autographed (Robert Hays) cookbook they produced!
Thanks again.
I forgot to add “Logan’s Run” to my faves and collection list. I wish the later formats of many films released on Laserdisc incorporated all the printed material extras that were on them. Some of the supplements were extensive. I also have three or four VHS tapes of extras from the 1st “X-Files” movie and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
Do you have the mythical uncut TV version of Logan’s Run? That would be an amazing find.
Hi. Please feel free to ask about anything I might have. I can’t remember it all, so asking sometimes prods the memory! Unfortunately, I no longer have any of my DS9 originally recorded tapes. I always edited them down anyway, so any other show’s promos would have been edited out. A very good friend of mine just sold her entire collection of…I think it was “Highlander”(?) on VHS, which included tons of bonus fan tapes, etc. I will check with her, as she may have some Xena or Hercules tapes as well. She still has a bunch of fantasy tapes, so please ask if you’re looking for anything else.
Do you have a “Half Price Books” or similar store near you? They often have things, including entire collections from the things talked about on here.
I also have things from “Beauty and the Beast” (CBS 1987-1990), if anyone’s interested.
friedcamera, I wish I had that “Logan’s Run” version! I fell in love (or something!), with Jenny Agutter when that came out and so looked forward to the TV series, only to be incredibly disappointed! I still have a bunch of articles, etc. on the TV show, too. At least they put that series out on DVD! Sorry I couldn’t help, but if you’re interested in the TV series, please let me know.
By the way, does anyone out there have any of the old “Episode Guides” magazines? They almost exclusively featured episode guides from all manner of series, particularly science fiction/fantasy, but other genres. They covered a lot of shows that are extremely difficult to find to this day and regularly had features and tons of cool photos to go along with them. I have a bunch, many that I don’t need and have been trying to sell at conventions, etc.
Today, June 18, is Superhero Saturday in Whiting, Indiana, a stone’s throw from Chicago. They feature all manner of comic, superhero, science fiction, etc. events and seller. If anyone’s around…
pittrek, I just looked at a tape that has been sitting RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY NOSE, and on it is the “Star Trek: 30 Years & Beyond” 1996 LIVE UPN special, running time of 1:31:00. I put it in and it looks EXTREMELY good. I assume that this is the one you’re looking for? Ted Danson hosted and the v/o said it was “Live from Hollywood”.
Also on this tape I have listed the following:
“Hollywood’s Aliens & Monsters” (TMP/TWOK/Abyss/ID4, etc.), 1997, 17 min
“S.T.Experience” Beginning 1997 (vc) ad
“ST: Borg” (vc) ad
Persis Khambatta death from Fox News Channel
"Ent. Weekly: “ST Encore”, 32 years, pre-STIX
Forrest DeKelley death: from WGN/ABC/WFLD/MSNBC
“Time and Again”: ST Con from 2/25/1976 on NBC and “Today”, 9/16/1976
“Today”: ST Smithsonian Exhibit, 2/27/1992 and “Time and Again”: Tom Snyder w/ Roddenberry, 3/21/1979
I can’t remember exact details as to what is included in these programs, but this should give you an idea of the kind of things I recorded. As for ST, often I would have several VCR’s going on at the same time to capture interviews, etc. from each network.
Don’t get old… 😉