logo Sign In

Plot holes in the SW saga — Page 14

Author
Time
Post link
Oh yeah now I remember.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
I know it's been a while. But it's a tough one to forget.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
I don't usually try to remember phallus-cutting episodes.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Not a cutting episode. It's a song about a guy who can literally take his off as needed. Weird, yes. But funny as all hell.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
Why would a man want to remove his own genitals? Does he puts it on a glass of water when he goes to sleep?
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: motti_soL
ok, let me go on a rant and try and follow me...

the Spice Mines of Kessel are located in something called the Maw Cluster. it is a cluster made up of several black holes. as we all know, black holes have an extremely great gravity pull. there is something around black holes calles The Schwarzschild Radius, also known as The Event Horizon. this EV is the limit from which light can escape. beyond the EV even light cannot escape. the futher you are away from a black hole, the lesser the gravity pull, meaning that you can travel at slower speeds to escape its gravity pull; but the closer you get to a black hole, the faster must you travel.

now, the closer you are to one of those black holes in the Maw Cluster, the shorter the distance to the Kessel, meaning you dont need to take de-tours. and you we know from what ive written above that the closer you get to one of those black holes, the faster you travel. this concludes that if the Millenium Falcon can do the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs, it means that it needs a shorter route through the Maw Cluster to get to Kessel, ie the MF travels very fast.

make any sense?


No it doesn't. He was boasting about the ships speed. If thats what he meant then he could have said it can move through dangerous environments. Or Im a good navigator. His statement is completly sensless. Just another movie opps.

Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: ricarleite
Why would a man want to remove his own genitals? Does he puts it on a glass of water when he goes to sleep?

Okay, you're taking this just a bit too seriously, m'man. It's just a song.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: HotRod
WTF is a Parsec anyway???

Untill I came here, I didn't know.........Still don't!!


2.14 lightyears.
Author
Time
Post link
A parsec is a 1/12th of the distance the Mileniun Falcon traveled in order to make the kessle run.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
jimbo, if you use your head and think for a few seconds, it makes PERFECT sense...
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)
Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: ricarleite
A parsec is a 1/12th of the distance the Mileniun Falcon traveled in order to make the kessle run.

That has to be one of the most brilliant answers to a question yet on this forum.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: Bossk
Quote
Originally posted by: ricarleite
A parsec is a 1/12th of the distance the Mileniun Falcon traveled in order to make the kessle run.

That has to be one of the most brilliant answers to a question yet on this forum.


Oh, thank you so much.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Quote
Originally posted by: motti_soL
jimbo, if you use your head and think for a few seconds, it makes PERFECT sense...


No it honestly doesn't. Saying that it can take a shorter route really doesn't mean anything about the ship. Its like saying my car is great because I took a shortcut.
Author
Time
Post link
It really dosen't, as they are in space. The shortest path to another place in space would be a straight line...

I remember reading something about George Lucas claiming this was done on porpouse, as he wanted to show how Han Solo didn't know what he was talking about. I belive the whole "in less than 12 parsecs" thing is a mistake GL made while writting the screenplay, I belive even him did not know exactly what a parsec was at that moment.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Jimbo:

basically, because of the nearby blackhole, in order for the distance of the Kessel run to be made shorter ("less than 12 parsecs"), you need a ship that is fast enough that it can travel closer to the blackhole without being sucked into oblivion....SO, in order to make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, Han would need a seriously fast ship ("able to make .5 past light speed").

HOWEVER, I think ric is probably right about how AT THE TIME, GL was just making stuff up to sound cool. But once the Star Wars universe took off, they constructed a story to go around the "less than 12 parsecs" thing, so it would make sense with the definition of "parsecs" that came later.
Author
Time
Post link
Joker ok now that makes some sense, as it uses the whole "black hole bending time and space" theory thing. And yes, it was a mistake that GL and the EU tried to "correct" later on, SW has a lot of those things.

HotRod we all do!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Now just to clarify (and because I'm too damn lazy to read all the posts), a "parsec" is just a word made up by Lucas and not some actual measure of space and time, right? The 2.14 light years that Jimbo points out is just what LFL made up and is not real, right?
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
Nope it's real: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/Parsec.html

I'm assuming GL heard it somewhere, and found out to be a cool word, as he did with "wookie" and "jedi".
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Author
Time
Post link
Almost sounds like one of those coincidental things like Crichton and the Velociraptor in Jurassic Park. He started writing the book having conceived of a dinosaur like the Raptor but it had not yet been discovered by archaeologists. However, a raptor skeleton was discovered and named and whatever else and it confirmed this whole theory he had developed about this dinosaur. If nothing else, it gave him a name for it. Or did this happen with Spielberg while filming? I'm starting to wonder if Raptors were even in the book. It was one of the two situations. I read this years ago when the movie was first coming out.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
-------------------------
Kevin A
Webmaster/Primary Cynic
kapgar.typepad.com
kapgar.com
Author
Time
Post link
The introduction of Force Commander begins with the Imperial assault on Kalaan, and centers around a family known as the Tantors. Growing up in the midst of civil war battles on Garos IV, Brenn and Dellis Tantor were rescued from the rubble and wreckage of buildings by Imperial Stormtroopers. Looking up to these men as heroes, both boys vowed to join the Imperial forces and maybe, just maybe one day become Stormtroopers themselves. While attending the Imperial academy, their father, a transport pilot, was killed in a rebel attack. This only served to strengthen their resolve to defeat the rebels. Vows and dreams became reality as both became Stormtroopers and were involved in the Kalaan assault. In the course of the assault Brenn took command when their leader was killed and led them to victory. Lucas' attempts to integrate a humanistic storyline into Force Commander, and their efforts here are admirable, but not necessarily effective. What I did find very intriguing and effective about the story is how the missions follow the original "Star Wars" movieText

All clones huh? lol
Author
Time
Post link
The way I remember it, the raptors were knwon about befor he started on the book, but he decided to make them a lot bigger than the largest specimens that were thought to exist, then later on they actually found some raptors nearly as big as the ones he described.
Author
Time
Post link
Yes Laserman, that's what I heard too. I'm sure I had heard of raptors years before Jurrasic Park was made.
-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
Author
Time
Post link
"and also, in ESB, the empire saw that the millenium falcon was heading for bespin because they put a tracker on it. but when leia, lando and chewie escape they don't remove it (as far as I know) so the empire should have found them again after a while."

I know this was posted a while back, but here's a possible explanation anyway: The tracking beacon was being tracked by a specific tracking device which was on the Death Star. When the DS was destroyed, so was the device. OR they removed it after they landed. The whole tracking device thing is a bit stupid really, Leia KNEW they were being tracked but decided to lead the Empire straight to the rebel base anyway?!? Couldn't the have landed somewhere else and changed ships, or searched for the device and removed it, or rendevoused (sp?) with another rebel ship and transferred the plans to them and led the Imperials off in the wrong direction?!?
-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-