Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set (Released) — Page 5

ok, great news. I have successfully built and burned both the 25GB and 50GB version for Star Wars. As promised, here is the list of features for the Star Wars set,

Each film will be released over 4 seperate bluray disks.

1. 25GB Film only (24 audio options, 32 subtitles)
2. 25GB Special Features disk
3. 50GB Film + Special features disk (32 audio options, 32 subtitles)
4. 25GB Bonus Documentaries disk.

STAR WARS

1. FILM ONLY (25GB)

• motion menus
• chapters menu
• audio/subtitles menu
  VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps (remuxed from the official MKV)
  AUDIO:
  5.1 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1977 70mm six track mix)
  2.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1977 35mm stereo mix)
  1.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1977 35mm mono mix)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1985 Laserdisc mix)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [German] (1978 dub reconstruction)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [French] (1977 dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1977 Castilian dub)
  1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1980 Latino dub)
  1.0 Dolby Digital [Portuguese] (1980s Brazilian dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Japanese] (1978 Dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Italian] (1977 dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Polish] (1995 Voiceover)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Czech] (1992 dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Hungarian] (1984 dub)
  1.0 Dolby Digital [Russian] (recut SE dub)
  1.0 Dolby Digital [Russian] (1980’s voiceover)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Ukranian] (recut SE dub)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2004 DVD Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2004 starwars.com Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)
  2.0 Dolby Digital [Isolated Score]
  2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (Commentary For Visually Impaired)

SUBTITLES: (All subtitles are .sup files from Project Threepio v9.2)
English, English SDH, Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hindu, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Malay, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese

2. SPECIAL FEATURES DISK (25GB)

• ‘Introducing the Despecialized Edition and its Sources’ – 20 mins
• All changes to Star Wars since 1977 Comparison Video – 25 mins
• Cast Interviews (1977)
  Mark Hamill – BBC
  Alec Guinness – Parkinson
  Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Mark Hammill – The Mike Douglas Show
  Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Mark Hammill – On set interviews
  Bonus Interview: Harmy - BBC (May 2016)
• Deleted Scenes/Bloopers
  All deleted scenes, including the original cut of the Cantina scene, and blooper reel.
• Trailers/Tv Spots
  Teaser Trailer, Theatrical Trailer, Re-Release Trailer, Honest Trailer (2016), 17 x 30 second TV Spots
• Cultural Impact
  How Star Wars should have ended
  Robot Chicken: All episode 4 clips edited together in chronological order
  Family Guy: Blue Harvest TV special
  Bad Lip Reading
  Half in the Bag: George Lucas/Star Wars discussion episode
• Reviews
  Hello Greedo (Despecialized edition + Film review)
  Jeremy Jahns (Despecialized edition + Film review)
  Chris Stuckmann (Film review only)

3. FILM + SPECIAL FEATURES (50GB)
   Includes everything on both 25GB disks, plus 8 more audio options, including:

• 2.0 Dolby Digital [Thai] (recut SE dub)
• 2.0 Dolby Digital [Navajo] (recut from 2014 SE dub)
• ‘The Canon’ Podcast Commentary - Devin Faraci & Amy Nicholson (2016) (recut to fit)
• Red Letter Media – Mr. Plinkett (2012) (recut to fit)
• Rebel Force Radio Commentary (2014) (recut to fit)
• Collider Commentary (2016) (recut to fit)
• ‘Steele Wars’ Podcast - Live Comedy Commentary (2015) (recut to fit)
• Rifftrax Comedy Commentary (2011) (recut to fit)

4. BONUS DOCUMENTARIES DISK (25GB)

• Jamie Benning’s ‘Star Wars Begins’ Filmumentary (2hrs20mins)
• Making of Star Wars (1977) (49 mins)
• Empire of Dreams - Part I (60 mins)

As always, you must own the source material to download these disks. Therefore, if you do not already own them, please purchase the robot chicken and family guy star wars specials, as well as the bonus commentaries, which cost a couple of dollars each.

I will update with more info on availability shortly. Upload speeds where I live are very slow, so it may be a few days.

Thanks to everyone on the boards for your ideas and encouragement with this project. I look forward to sharing it with you all soon.

njvc-

That is exciting news…and I very much look forward to seeing the fruits of your labors!

The one MAJOR component of your project that I still believe to be a miss is:

njvc said:

3. 50GB Movie + Features disk
   Includes:

• Everything listed on disk 1 and 2
• 11 Audio Commentaries (6 of which did not fit on the 25GB disk)

The fatal flaw that I see in it is that it is terribly redundant (with the exception of the 6 additional audio commentaries…which, if I understand correctly, would not be playable via set-top due to the 8 audio track limitation) and inefficient. That’s roughly 50 EXTRA gigabytes (with little to no added value) that needs to be assembled (by you), uploaded to multiple distribution channels (by you and others), downloaded by end-users (and maintained indefinitely on private and public torrent sites by those same end-users).

Whenever Harmy releases an update to one of his DE titles (OR if you want to make some other change to either feature or BONUS content), that’s roughly 75gb (instead of 25gb) instantly outdated and will then need to go through this exact SAME distribution process each time. For a project that adds NO new content, whose PRIMARY benefits are format and organization, and that is directly tied to another project that is currently under active development this is NOT a sustainable model.

I assure you that my suggestions here (and previously in this thread) are ENTIRELY presented in an effort to try and benefit you and your efforts as well as those that would recognize and support your efforts. I absolutely believe that there is REALLY good merit in this project. IF done well, this project would clearly provide a SOLID benefit (and you have already come a good way further since your initial effort), but moving to a BD50 format for the feature portion WITHOUT a clear and practical reason for doing do is a mistake (and, even at this late stage, I still hope that you might reconsider).

Whatever your decision, I do wish you well and success in this project! It is my hope that I have successfully conveyed the substance and reasons for my suggestions by this point (…and IF you decide to stick to your guns, then so be it). As it is very clearly my wish to NOT detract from you or this project, I will now make an end.

Respectfully submitted,

-A.S.

p.s. towne32 THANK YOU for taking the time and going to the effort to try and explain things (I did understand the proposed format, I just saw an a significant issue and was simply trying to address it). I took no offense at anything you said and I hope the same was true of you. I do like to selectively use ALL CAPS to emphasize selected words or phrases (in much the same way as others might format as bold or italicize)…I know that it is kinda “quirky”, but yeah, please do read it as emphasizing that word or phrase (and definitely NOT as “shouting”).

My best to you, as well. 😉

I don’t consider the 50GB to be redundant at all. It includes the bonus commentaries, which are indeed accessible via the menu, and has all the special features on the one disk, which is a great advantage to many people. For those who do not want the extras, you are welcome to download the movie only version.

The 8 track restriction is enforced by Encore, but through use of multiAVCHD, I was able to add 32 audio tracks to the disk. 8 are accessible through the menus (via menu buttons), and the others are accessible via the ‘audio’ button on your bluray remote.

Same goes for subtitles. the first 16 are accessible via the menu, and the remaining 16 are accessible via the subtitles button on your bluray remote.

EDIT: please see my updated post, which might help clarify for you exactly what is on each disk, then you can decide which one you think you want to download. I know a lot of people are looking forward to the 50GB, so I’m not sure why you are upset about it. The goal of the project was always to try and create the definitive Star Wars bluray disk, and for me, that is the one with everything on it. It’s certainly the one I’ll have on my shelf!

I agree with you that there is great merit in the 25GB versions, but they were purely created for this community, as I am all about the 50GB version. And it’s looking great 😃

A.S. - you have made your point. please accept that you might not convince anyone to change their plans.

njvc - WOW! I am impressed by everything going on these 50GB versions. I am really looking forward to this.

I understand how you might think there are significant issues. Although it is 2016, I’m aware that not everyone has uncapped internet, fiber connections, and so on. If those were issues for him (or if he expressed any reservations), I would hardly beg him to take it on. And we would have to all think about other options. But, for him, like for many of us, the idea of uploading 150Gb seems to be extremely trivial in this day and age. As I said, Harmy’s releases are infrequent. And fortunately, you won’t have to download it.

Thanks for further clarifying what you meant. Now that I know that I understand where you were coming from, I can say with complete confidence that the points you’ve made are all extremely silly. Since you have made your point, as dahmage said, we will appreciate it if you no longer attempt to talk him out of working on the option that many of us will prefer and that he seems quite excited to produce. It would be a completely different story if this impacted the versions that you will be downloading. I think you should be glad about the redundancy, since it is your BD25 versions that would be dropped, not the BD50. But you’re still getting what you want, so there is no need to complain. Thank you.

towne32 said:

Now that I know that I understand where you were coming from, I can say with complete confidence that the points you’ve made are all extremely silly.

This needs to be emphasized. njvc is doing an amazing job for all of us and to complain about something irrelevant that doesn’t affect you in the slightest is just rude.

Also putting select WORDS in all CAPS just makes you LOOK even more SILLY.

Most excellent!

TV’s Frink said:

towne32 said:

Now that I know that I understand where you were coming from, I can say with complete confidence that the points you’ve made are all extremely silly.

Also putting select WORDS in all CAPS just makes you LOOK even more SILLY.

If Frinkbot taught us anything, and he didn’t, it’s that it’s ALL caps or NONE.

This needs to be emphasized. njvc is doing an amazing job for all of us and to complain about something irrelevant that doesn’t affect you in the slightest is just rude.

The most absurd part was running in like, “Oh my god. Is it too late? No? STOP THE PRESSES. I fear that you have made a grave mistake and accidentally did not read my post a few pages back [link]. Surely it was not ignored while more relevant issues were discussed. Okay now that I’ve gotten your attention could you just release the version of this that I’m interested in? Lol the redundancy is going to hurt my eyes if I need to see the link next to the version I want to click on. Ok thxbye.”

PARAPHRASED. Obvously A.S. didn’t say it in that intentionally rude tone, but I think it conveys how it came across to for those of us awaiting the BD50 to have someone isn’t affected by it to try to shut it down for no reason.

Wow. I am EXTREMELY excited for this! Now who will be the first to whip up some covers??

imail724 said:

Wow. I am EXTREMELY excited for this! Now who will be the first to whip up some covers??

I think an ‘insert’ card would also be important in this case, to describe all the audio tracks and subs that will not be present on the menu.

Given how massive and full these discs are, it might be a good idea to have the members here test them out before making the version permanent by uploading to the spleen, etc.

All audio and subtitles are listed in the menus, but the ‘non button’ items are listed on a seperate page with instructions to access via remote. I agree that an insert card would be a good addition though.

njvc said:

All audio and subtitles are listed in the menus, but the ‘non button’ items are listed on a seperate page with instructions to access via remote. I agree that an insert card would be a good addition though.

God damn you thought of everything!

It’s ok, I am able to remux the official MKV now without any loss of picture quality so will get started on Empire and Jedi soon.

As for the Star Wars set, I would like to add Harmy’s recent BBC interview as one final feature, then will upload over this weekend.

I will snag all of them and help you seed.

I’m massively anticipating the BD50. Incredible work njvc.

The lossless master was mostly in case he couldn’t get the existing video streams working. But he did.

I’m not sure if he really even has much room to spare. But if he does go about reencoding, we might also want to discuss encoding settings as Harmy’s were already well optimized. Wouldn’t want him encoding h264 with adobe and unintentionally downgrading the video quality or something. It also introduces new chances for errors to slip in.

It was a great relief to be able to include the original video stream and not have to try and figure out how to encode the video myself at the same quality as Harmy. And it also means I can move on to Empire and Jedi without hesitation.

Heading out for a much needed vacation for a few days, but I would love to take a look at this if you want more eyes before widespread release. But I have a lot of confidence that you will get it right.

Regarding covers etc, anyone working on that? I imagine there are already some despecialized ones that could be a starting point? (On my mobile and feeling way too lazy to search for anything)

Thanks that sounds good. The 25GB film only version is uploaded but the 50gb will take the weekend. I’ll let you know when it’s ready.

dahmage said:

Heading out for a much needed vacation for a few days, but I would love to take a look at this if you want more eyes before widespread release. But I have a lot of confidence that you will get it right.

Regarding covers etc, anyone working on that? I imagine there are already some despecialized ones that could be a starting point? (On my mobile and feeling way too lazy to search for anything)

There’s a thread that probably has 100 or so options for despecialized.

True, but they don’t lay out all the extras in this release 😉

He suggested that there might be despecialized ones to use as a starting point. Was just saying there are quite a lot to choose from as far as that goes.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Custom-blu-ray-setfor-the-Despecialized-Editions/id/18201

Here are links to a very good custom cover set.

https://mega.nz/#!owdRzYaQ!AkwyN6q54h9rmcl3oSNHXZ-Gw5xHb28S_zzOEuZaM64

This is a link to where you can download them directly. If someone could edit these covers and inserts to mesh with this release it would work very well. Use Jdownloader to download the links.