yotsuya said:
Yup, exactly why those two scenes are plot holes in my book. Both took me right out of the movie.There is no “in my book” when it comes to definitions. You can’t change a definition based on your personal beliefs.
Ah, but you provided the definition and to me both those perfectly meet your definition.
Maybe that’s because I use words I know the definitions to lol
I’m telling you that when I fist saw TFA, both those scenes interrupted the film and for my experience they exactly match the provided definition of a plot hole.
I don’t really care about how you felt. A vast majority of the things you said were plot holes were actually plot conveniences, inconsistencies with how reality works (like the people at Maz’s Castle seeing the Hosnian System being destroyed), things you didn’t understand in the story or things that didn’t match the dictionary definition of a plot hole. Also, how does your first impression of a film have to do with what you know now?
R2 waking up didn’t have the same effect.
Because that’s not a plot hole either. It’s a plot convenience. Plus, we’ve been kind of conditioned to overlook stuff like that in Star Wars.