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yotsuya
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Is there anything that you actually like about the prequels?
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1-Jun-2016, 1:29 AM

Density said:

yotsuya said:

TV’s Frink said:

yotsuya said:

On a scale from 1 to 10, with 1 being fantastic…and 10 being awful

You’ve got that backwards.

Not to mention putting the PT above TFA for the writing (what?).

Face it, TFA is badly written like all of Abrams projects. Good scenes and good acting can’t save it.

Face it, your opinion is wrong.

See how effective that is?

Seems you have an irrational hatred of Abrams since you gave Into Darkness a “10” (which in your universe apparently means “worst”). It wasn’t a masterpiece but god knows it wasn’t that bad. So something tells me you might be a little biased if you’re going to be so ridiculously hyperbolic about how terrible Abrams’s writing supposedly is. I mean really, Lucas a better writer? The prequels specifically being better written? That’s hysterical.

There are levels to writing. To start with, you have to create a good story. Lucas excels at that (or we wouldn’t be here). Then you have to develop the idea, flesh it out, people it, and develop the characters. Lucas isn’t too bad at that. Then for films, you need to hire a production designer, director, cinematographer, and actors to realize it. According to the general consensus, Lucas failed to adequately develop parts of the story, and didn’t direct his actors well. Those are things Abrams does well. But Abrams has a track record for failing to deliver a satisfactory ending to his stories. Lost started out great but became boring after the first 3 seasons and the ending was weak. Star Trek took a good story telling property and turned it into near senseless action trash. With Star Trek Into Darkness he went the hack route and stole (and stole badly) from the best of the old films. With TFA he gave us a weak plot filled with holes and inconsistencies. He gave us fantastic characters with great scenes and great dialog, but failed to string those scenes into a great story. And so typical of Abrams, he gave us the weakest ending out of 7 films. Weak endings seem to be his hallmark.

Lucas at least gave us good plots even if a lot of the other pieces weren’t up to OT standards.

I spend too much time with writers. I know few who like Abrams two Star Trek movies and most of my off-line circle of friends were more disappointed in TFA than the PT. As I said, bad writing. I’m fairly certain that 8 and 9 are in better hands. They still have a chance to be better than the PT.

By the standards I judge by, TFA failed to be as good as the PT. It failed to capture the vast grandness of the Star Wars universe. Something the PT provided on abundance. Even the OT managed to make the galaxy feel big and vast just with the dialog without showing things. I attribute it to the quality of Lucas’s writing ability. His first 3 forayed into directing produced incredible results. I believe the great fault of the PT lies in the way the story developed and a lack of honest outside editing - one of the big things that was different from the OT. I just think TFA has worse problems.