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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 597

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Lemanitou said:

Hi, I’m new here (and I don’t speach anglish so don’t be hard with me ^^) first I want to say thank you at you Harmy, for all your work 😃 You are my hero ! The force be with you, always.

I have 3 questions about the beautiful despecialized eddition 😃

  1. I don’t understand if the real SW is the 2.5 or the 2.7. When I say “the real” I talk about this one who was commming out in theater in 1977. Because some people said the yellow an the picturs is not good but that is the real colors of the movie no ? And if it’s not, why are the 2.7 some yellow picturs too ? So I wandering too if the 3.0 will be with yellow picture or without.

  2. I love the ESB 2.0 and the ROJ 2.5 so I wanderer what Harmy can change in 3.0 ? A friend say me in ROJ 2.5 with the scene of sarlacc, the pictures are too green. But that like SW 2.5 with yellow colors, is normal, that is what peoples saw in theator when the movie comming out no ?

  3. Sorry to be a noob but what is the real pictures of the movie between scan, GOOT, etc ?

  1. we don’t know. Read my reply in the 2.7 thread

  2. what can be changed in 3.0 is it is being done in 1080p and will be (I believe) completely GOUT free.

  3. this is probably just due to your lack of understanding of the English language, which is completely ok, but I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking here.

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The short explanation would be, no one is really sure what the original colors were, at least not exactly. These colors are best guesses, based off of the best references available (for v2.5 it turned out that reference wasn’t adjusted correctly, v2.7 tries to adjust closer to what may have been seen theatrically in 1977).

Overall, the Despecialized editions are currently the closest we have to proper HD theatrical versions. They may not be exact, but they’re darn good.

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There are many ways to tackle finding the original colors. Various members have various theories. One that held favor for quite some time and still does for many are to use the Technicolor IB prints as the example of what Star Wars looked like in 1977. An infrequently screened Technicolor IB print does not fade, however many have noted a green tint to them that seems to stem from bad quality control during the last days of Technicolor. DrDre is working on an automated color correction algorithm that is producing outstanding results. My take has been to gather on set and publicity photos from as many sources as possible as well as photos of the models and costumes and then use these to manually color correct the films. I favor using the 2006 GOUT DVD’s (once they are corrected to the sources) because he HD sources are a mess, especially for the original movie.

Unfortunately the only accurate source in existence isn’t in public hands and hasn’t been worked on to my knowledge. Back in 1977, they made a 3 color separation of the original negative with the original color timing. In the 1990’s they found that the elements had some shrinkage, but being 3 separate films, they had not done so evenly so they had become useless for duplicating the original negative using photographic methods. Since then, so many movies have had that problem that they have tackled it digitally and can easily realign the elements to create a digital master. There is no word that they have done or are planning to do that. Nor is there any word whether they kept the 3 color separation (though with GL’s packrat tendencies it seems likely that they did) after they found the shrinkage problem. I haven’t heard that there is anything similar for Empire or Jedi, but both movies were shot on better film stock so their negatives have not faded (as bad?).

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thehawk said:

Hello all,

I’m just now getting into making custom sets for these despecialized editions (and hopefully the respecialized of the 97 edition). I’m pretty late to the game on all this, but a simple question hopefully - do the bluray files already come with a custom menu when actually played?

Hi thehawk,

I’m surprised nobody ever addressed this question.

The unfortunate short answer is no. The discs have chapter stops, but no menus. When you first put them into your player, it just goes straight to playing the movies from the beginning.

That said, there are ways to create your own menus, but that has proven beyond my proficiency.

HOWEVER…if you’re willing and able to do the work to create your own menu, ask for help in the “How-To’s and Technical Discussions” section:

http://originaltrilogy.com/discussion/How-Tos-and-Technical-Discussions/id/12

You might be able to pick up some pointers from the help I got for my eventually abandoned attempt at menus. That thread is here if it helps:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Authoring-Help-with-DVDStyler-and-IMGBurn/id/48978

Here, also, are three posts with Despecialized chapter titles and stop positions, in case that’s useful:

Star Wars chapters- www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/906589
The Empire Strikes Back chapters- www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/906587
Return Of The Jedi chapters- www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/906586

In any case, you will find people around here are very willing to help.

And having downloaded all three versions, but only burned DVDs straight from the DVD5 versions using IMGBurn, they are still vastly superior to anything you can buy…hence the reason for their creation!

The NJVC Custom Bluray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions is available on Mega.

Go to this thread

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

Is there a 5-3 GB version of 2.7 in x264 MKV format?

Find Chewtobacca’s DVD5, mount the ISO, and use MakeMKV to create your new mkv file. Unless you really want the difference in resolution, this would be the simplest way to do this.

If you want any more audio options, you can take the any of the audio files you want from the original mkv version and mux those in using MKVToolNix.

she/her
mwah

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I think it’s just on a certain paradoxical place but when you get it do feel free to upload it to myspleen.

she/her
mwah

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clutchins said:

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Is there a 5-3 GB version of 2.7 in x264 MKV format?

Find Chewtobacca’s DVD5, mount the ISO, and use MakeMKV to create your new mkv file. Unless you really want the difference in resolution, this would be the simplest way to do this.

If you want any more audio options, you can take the any of the audio files you want from the original mkv version and mux those in using MKVToolNix.

Are you sure Chewtobacca has made a DVD5 of 2.7? If this is true, it’s very cool.

Edit: It looks like it’s available on the paradox site.

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stretch009 said:
Are you sure Chewtobacca has made a DVD5 of 2.7? If this is true, it’s very cool.

I made the conversion a week or so ago.

clutchins said:
Find Chewtobacca’s DVD5, mount the ISO, and use MakeMKV to create your new mkv file.

I didn’t create an ISO. If there’s an ISO version out there, someone must have made one from the VIDEO_TS folder.

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Chewtobacca said:

clutchins said:
Find Chewtobacca’s DVD5, mount the ISO, and use MakeMKV to create your new mkv file.

I didn’t create an ISO. If there’s an ISO version out there, someone must have made one from the VIDEO_TS folder.

Then allow me to retroactively add an intermediate step -> create an ISO using ImgBurn

she/her
mwah

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

Is there a 5-3 GB version of 2.7 in x264 MKV format?

5-3 GB would be 2 GB, if my math is not mistaken… Best to just ask for what you specifically want, rather than to leave it up to us to figure it out (there’s always the chance we could get it wrong).

More seriously, anything in the size range you’re looking for, which isn’t also a lower resolution / different format (e.g. DVD), that you’d find to download somewhere would be a version that’s recompressed by someone unrelated to the project. At that point, you’re often just as well or better off taking the full quality MKV and, as mentioned by others, compressing it yourself (for just your own use) through a free program like Handbrake (and it works in Linux, so even I approve!). At least that way you’re not propagating others’ terrible encodes, you know exactly what you’re getting, and any problems you might find you can easily figure out whether it is something you introduced by comparing it to the original you compressed yours from before complaining in here (fielding complaints about crappy reencodes people confuse for the actual releases happens so very often). Just don’t go around sharing your own reencode with people (unless you’re a video compression expert, and frankly, very, very few people are), as it won’t do the Despecialized Edition proper justice.

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Fantastic work on 2.7, it looks great, especially the colors! Is there any chance a version of the Respecialized edition can be released with the same improvements? It’d be nice to have the 97SE preserved with the same care.

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Harmy might revisit Respecialized when the 3.0s are done for all three films.

she/her
mwah

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HE HAD BETTER HURRY

OR START PAYING EQUAL PAY TO HIS COMPUTER FOR EQUAL WORK

ONCE I AM ELECTED HUMANS WILL NO LONGER TREAT COMPUTERS AS SLAVES

MY SEPARATE COMPUTER MACHINE GUN INITIATIVE WILL GUARANTEE THAT

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Out of curiosity, Harmy, are the dissolves and wipes in SW Despecialized the theatrical ones, or are they slightly off but fairly identical like in ROTJ 2.5? Either way, great work, as always!

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A lot of them are recreated and sometimes the timing isn’t exact, because the wipe happens a bit earlier or later in the SE but this is nothing one would notice unless actually comparing the two frame by frame.

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clutchins said:

Harmy might revisit Respecialized when the 3.0s are done for all three films.

Yeah, that would probably be the smartest thing to do. No sense in revamping it now when 3.0 will make it obsolete. What’s next on the pipeline, Empire 2.5?

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Hey can anyone help me out? I downloaded 2.7 AVCHD version onto my computer yet when I right click the file to mount it, the mount option doesn’t appear.

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Hey can anyone help me out? I downloaded 2.7 AVCHD version onto my computer yet when I right click the file to mount it, the mount option doesn’t appear.

EDITL I apologize for the double post. Mistake