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Don’t agree at all that the 97 changes were less offensive. They were by far the most drastic and worst. Of the three major new 04 changes, I prefer one (Emperor), am indifferent to one (Boba Fett voice), and only dislike one (Hayden ghost). It actually improved on the 97 in reversing the terrible Luke scream, making Han and Greedo shoot at nearly the same time, and making CGI Jabba look better. So no, I don’t get it when people say the 97 is somehow better and closer to the originals. Unless they’re just talking about the colors or something. But the actual content is at least as bad. In some ways slightly worse, in some ways slightly better. It’s all a travesty if it has “Jedi Rocks” and Greedo gets a shot off. I think people who defend the 97 either do so out of nostalgia (if they were young when it came out or first saw the movies on a 97 VHS or something) or just because it’s older and has also been superseded by subsequent versions. Therefore it has some of that “I can’t have it, therefore it’s better” appeal due to its unavailability.

Density said:

am indifferent to one (Boba Fett voice)

SAD BEEP

TV’s Frink said:

Density said:

am indifferent to one (Boba Fett voice)

SAD BEEP

Well I mean as much as the prequels suck, I can’t erase their existence from my head. And for continuity reasons, it makes sense that Boba Fett would sound the same as Jango and all the other clones. Even though I think it’s dumb that Boba Fett is a clone in the first place, it does admittedly make sense within the films’ internal logic. Plus the voice alone, even when you take the prequels out of the picture, doesn’t really sound that bad. It fits the character IMO. I don’t really consider either voice to have that much of an advantage over the other. I could take or leave either one. He only has like three lines of dialogue anyway.

GlastoEls said:

But the colours in 2004…

True, though ESB doesn’t look as terrible.

Well if there are millions of other clones who all have the same voice and look the same, it wouldn’t be hard for Boba to “go incognito.” Plus Jango’s real voice came out of the helmet.

Density said:

I think people who defend the 97 either do so out of nostalgia (if they were young when it came out or first saw the movies on a 97 VHS or something) or just because it’s older and has also been superseded by subsequent versions. Therefore it has some of that “I can’t have it, therefore it’s better” appeal due to its unavailability.

i am in the camp of those who first saw the 97 SE and that was all i saw for years. so yes, for me it is very much nostalgia as it was the only version i knew for a long time. if it was the first version you saw, i think you would feel much the same would you not?

You can’t fight nostalgia, or convince someone that they shouldn’t have it.

SilverWook said:

There’s no logic in Boba’s real voice coming out of the helmet at all. If you were the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, you want to be able to lose the suit once in a while and be incognito in public.

I say it even breaks one of the Cardinal Rules of the Star Wars Universe: that wearing a cool-looking bucket on your head changes your voice. Darth does it, Leia does it, and Boba ostensibly did it since his voice sounded awesomely processed and mechanized.
The makers of TFA get it, and lampshade it with Poe’s nice dig at Rilo Kiley about it being "hard to understand [him] with all the–apparatus…

Darth Id said:

SilverWook said:

There’s no logic in Boba’s real voice coming out of the helmet at all. If you were the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, you want to be able to lose the suit once in a while and be incognito in public.

I say it even breaks one of the Cardinal Rules of the Star Wars Universe: that wearing a cool-looking bucket on your head changes your voice.

THE COOL LOOKING CASE AROUND MY INNARDS MADE ME LOUDER

dahmage said:

Density said:

I think people who defend the 97 either do so out of nostalgia (if they were young when it came out or first saw the movies on a 97 VHS or something) or just because it’s older and has also been superseded by subsequent versions. Therefore it has some of that “I can’t have it, therefore it’s better” appeal due to its unavailability.

i am in the camp of those who first saw the 97 SE and that was all i saw for years. so yes, for me it is very much nostalgia as it was the only version i knew for a long time. if it was the first version you saw, i think you would feel much the same would you not?

You can’t fight nostalgia, or convince someone that they shouldn’t have it.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with it. If you like the 97 knock yourself out. It doesn’t hold any special appeal to me since I to this day have never actually seen them in their entirety; I started with the OOT on VHS and the first SE I saw was 04, so the 97 kind of seems like the worst of both worlds from my perspective. But I totally get why it wouldn’t to someone exposed to SW for the first time through the 97 SE. None of us would be here if we weren’t nostalgia nuts in one way or another.

Granted I don’t particularly agree with any of the changes. I get George’s logic behind changing Boba’s voice in Empire but really is it necessary?? Plus the delivery in my opinion is really bad and not convincing. He speaks too fast and it just sounds off. As far as the 97 SE’s go well if I had to choose any versions of the SE’s I probably would pick those. At least some of the changes added from '04 onward are not there. We still get the original Emperor, Ghost Sebastian, no ‘Weesa Free’, and yes the coloring is somewhat closer to the originals. The fact is EVERY version of the SW films are flawed but then again what movies aren’t?? Am I hyped that they’re showing the SE’s?? Not especially but I’d be off me rocker if I said I expected them to show the old cuts, as much as many of us would like them to have.

moviefreakedmind said:

Darth Id said:

SilverWook said:

There’s no logic in Boba’s real voice coming out of the helmet at all. If you were the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, you want to be able to lose the suit once in a while and be incognito in public.

I say it even breaks one of the Cardinal Rules of the Star Wars Universe: that wearing a cool-looking bucket on your head changes your voice. Darth does it, Leia does it, and Boba ostensibly did it since his voice sounded awesomely processed and mechanized.
The makers of TFA get it, and lampshade it with Poe’s nice dig at Rilo Kiley about it being "hard to understand [him] with all the–apparatus…

I’m shocked to read a post by you that isn’t filled with wickedness and degeneracy.

HE GENERALLY SAVES THAT FOR OFF TOPIC

Didn’t Temeura Morrison literally phone it in, as in he recorded the Boba Fett lines over the phone? He was never a charismatic actor, but that just feels like they were going out of their way to make it lame. In any case, I’m of the opinion that it would make more sense for Fett to have a different voice anyway. If you’re this amazingly effective bounty hunter working in the underworld, I would think you’d want to do everything in your power to not look and sound exactly like all those clones from 20 years ago. Granted, he’s constantly wearing that very distinctive armor so it’s unlikely that he’ll ever be able to move around anonymously (unless he doesn’t use it for every job as someone suggested a few posts back), but still, I’d think he’d want to start crafting his personal legend that he leans on so heavily with a clean slate rather than being “that clone guy”. I’ve seen the argument made that he wouldn’t change his face or voice out of respect for his father, but I don’t think Boba Fett is that sentimental. Not my Boba Fett, anyway.