I know you didn't say anything about ignoring them, I was just ADDING to the subject, I wasn't contradicting you on it. What I DID contradict was: "The ones that actually do kill themselves never seem suicidal at all.", which, not only by my own experiences, but also according to the experience of several suicide help groups I've helped, is NOT true. The ones that actually kill themselves DO tell someone about it before they do it. Since they do, I was just addnig that if someone close to you shows such signs or mentions this subject, you could and should help him/her.