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Can someone please provide some Mediafire download links to the laserdisc editions of the original version of "Knick Knack"?
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I was very fortunate, I suppose, to have seen SotS as a kid in '87. :P
I managed to find a copy online to watch a couple months ago. The quality wasn't HD or anything, but it was serviceable. I honestly found it a beautiful movie; those who call it racist are either overtly-sensitive members of the PC police or haven't even seen the movie in the first place.
Damn straight. We don't need no stinkin' SJWs!
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Can someone please provide some Mediafire download links to the laserdisc editions of the original version of "Knick Knack"?
Possible you can recreate the specific screenshot without the commentary subtitles and with the boobs added?
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I originally thought Knick Knack was a fullscreen production (thanks, VHS) and the later update was a rework in widescreen. [Wrong about that bit of info] Simply repairing the boobs damage (from the best quality source, laserdisc) on the later widescreen version made it a boobs restoration (hence this project's title).
I also thought the next immediate project would be a preservation of that best quality fullscreen laserdisc. [Again, wrong about that info]
A later project might be an update-remake -- basically the preservation in widescreen. [Wrong info again] That would be tougher to do because the update required reprocessing the entire film (because of the new, boob-less animation models) on different equipment with different software (which took Pixar months to sort out). Side effect? It altered (however small) things like camera and character placement. Also I noticed the leaves/hair of Sunny Jamaica look as if they were rotated to clump differently (see pictures below). That would be a much bigger project.
And the last, topper, project? Why ... a 3D (or more accurately stereographics) reconstruction ... of course. With every object already independently layered for the previous project, this is would an easy final step. Except for snow flakes in the snow dome.
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So, scratch the old, wrong info and let's add one more thing to this project. Color correction. The laserdisc source has boobs and original color (and should match the freeze-frame snapshots from Toy Story 2). The updated, superior resolution HD source for Knick Knack then must be color-corrected to match, before the boobs restoration onto it.
In lieu of a laserdisc snapshot , the picture below is trimmed out from the Toy Story 2 in-story TV screen ..
It is geometrically distorted (like an old glass-tube TV set), contrast reduced, and color de-saturated (from the rest of the shot). To clarify it back into a real picture, it's luminance is spread back out (Low, & High) across the spectrum, strengthen by lightness (Gamma) and contrast (Midtones). I normally use RGB adjustments, but haven't figured out saturation yet. So, another tool was used to increase the color strength (Saturation). All values changed from their defaults are high-lighted as shown ..
Wow (on the left), that looks nice! It makes the update picture beside it (resized & TV-cropped to match, from the Finding Nemo extras) look dark, dingy, and just plain wrong. Note it's commentary subtitles, and no boobs ..
As you can see in the R-G-B adjustments, the
compressed highs were pulled back up
(High), the contrasts increased (Midtones),
and the lightnesses increased (Gamma).
In that process, the over-riding green tint
was less increased to let the normal color
come out. The red graph-overlays show
resulting spectrums ..
And the resulting color-corrected picture? Astounding! Well, almost astounding. Just two things missing ... and we'll take care of that, too.
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I hope you liked this demonstration. And in keeping with this project's subject matter, I presented it as ... well ... boobs.
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Now this Knick Knack is original widescreen, original color, and original boobs ready!
I just finished a more comprehensive pic (without the subtitles) I edited on Photoshop that includes the boobs from the original. However, I don't know how to add images here yet.
Go to imgur.com, upload, and copy the file location to the insert image function of the forums.
Also, whatever happened to the 35mm print? Do any of us have it?
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OK, here it is:
I even did a comparison of the two versions that you can see on Dailymotion.
Nice work on that! I hope it's not too late to request the added feature of audio comparison? Left channel for a mono-ized 1989 and right channel for a mono-ized 2003. The audio changes should be minimal but the speed & pitch may differ between these uploaded sources.
Hopefully, who ever won that film auction some posts back will definitively answer all our questions & guesses. I'm still hoping the 1st, original, and most-awesome 3D (stereographic) theatrical release will turn up. :)
While I'm idling, does anyone know, from friend of a man of a guy who knows, if the Knick Knack 35mm (page 3) has a future on this forum, or on a friend of a man of a guy's forum?
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Any updates on this?
Well, most of this was my proof-of-concept on consumer media. We never heard anything more about that film auction. (For anyone doing that project, feel free to bounce over here and run with it!) Of course, that would by-pass the need for any reconstructive surgery.
I was going touch-up a live-model picture as Sunny Miami. You have no idea how much searching I did to find the purrrfect one! But thoroughness is a virtue. All to prove that “ridiculous cartoon boobs” (as someone once put it) are neither ridiculous nor cartoon.
Fortunately for the world’s eye-strain epidemic, I had to curtail further, uh, development, until I had the time to give it them her justice.
Well, most of this was my proof-of-concept on consumer media. We never heard anything more about that film auction. (For anyone doing that project, feel free to bounce over here and run with it!) Of course, that would by-pass the need for any reconstructive surgery.
I was going touch-up a live-model picture as Sunny Miami. You have no idea how much searching I did to find the purrrfect one! But thoroughness is a virtue. All to prove that “ridiculous cartoon boobs” (as someone once put it) are neither ridiculous nor cartoon.
Fortunately for the world’s eye-strain epidemic, I had to curtail further, uh, development, until I had the time to give
itthemher justice.
Good luck, I hope you manage to finish it. Like it or not, this is a piece of animation history and some of the (honestly rather prudish people) discouraging progress in this thread is a bit disheartening and confusing, as someone mentioned earlier didn’t someone spend time just editing a poster in a Roger Rabbit short? I thought you all were purists! /end rant.
(honestly rather prudish people)
I, for one, am looking forward to this. And it has only about 10% factored into it, that I love boobs.
(honestly rather prudish people)
Well that just makes your objections even more confusing!
Read the rest of the thread.
Any updates on this?
I recently acquired a 16mm copy that I’m getting ready to get scanned sometime soon, most likely before the end of this year. Not sure of its condition. I have a thread on here about it. This thread, however, will be VERY helpful in fully restoring it when it finally gets scanned! Thanks to GoboFraggle1983 for that screenshot!
Excellent, Dave. I, for one, look forward to having the Knick Knack knockers properly reinflated.
Would it be possible to reconstruct the 3D version with the sources we already know about?
Right, I’ve Tried My Best To Upscale / Enhance The Original, And Here It Is Everyone:
Oh, thanks for remembering me, to post some pictures from a 35mm source of that… Has to wait until Sunday.
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Also, Just Saying But The Highest Quality Version Of The Boobs Version Of Knick Knack Actually Comes From An Employee Exclusive DVD From 2001 Called Made In Point Richmond, Anyways, Here’s A Link To The ISO Files: https://youtu.be/vJjqV2l8Pmk?list=PLZQ1gdKtWk1GfbjtU-W5I1Lo92xjPzDCV And The Version Of Knick Knack In It, However, It Is Commentated: https://youtu.be/vJjqV2l8Pmk
Or Screw It, The Entire DVD!: https://forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/1360/point-richmond-discussion?page=9#post-19203