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Originally posted by: Shimraa
There is still hope. the PA and the NHL are meeting with out bettmen and Goodnow, now they can finaly bargan.
It won't happen. There is no hope for this season. The salary cap is still the sticking point. Owners want it, players don't, and neither will give up the fight.
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Report: NHL Season to Be Scratched Tuesday
TORONTO (Sports Network) - National Hockey League commissioner Gary Bettman is expected to officially cancel the 2004-05 season at a Tuesday afternoon press conference, according to The Sports Network of Canada.
Despite several last-ditch attempts to iron out a new collective bargaining agreement, the NHL will become the first major North American sports league to call off an entire season. The Stanley Cup will not be awarded for only the second time since 1893, as it wasn't given out in 1919 due to a flu epidemic.
On Sunday, the same day the All-Star Game was supposed to be played in Atlanta, the NHL and NHL Players' Association met for more than five hours with federal mediators. Much like other talks that have occurred in recent weeks, no progress was reported by either side.
Last week, Bettman imposed a weekend deadline for an agreement to be reached, finally giving something resembling a drop-dead date. If an agreement could have been reached, the league had in place a 28-game regular season schedule followed by full playoffs.
The main sticking point between the league and union remains "cost certainty," or a direct relationship between salaries and revenues. Last week, the NHL offered a proposal that would begin under the terms of the NHLPA's December offer, which included a luxury tax instead of a salary cap. However, the proposed deal included four trigger points that could have switched the CBA to the terms of the NHL's February 2nd offer, which included a cap.
The NHL locked out its players on September 16th, and the stoppage reached its 152nd day on Monday.
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greedy bastards!!!!!!!!!!!
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FUCKIN FUCK
FUCKIN PLAYERS AND BOB GOODNOW I HATE THE MOTHER FUCKIN IDOIT. YOU KNOW IT SOME TIMES I WONDER HOW THIS GUYS COULD HAVE GRADUTATED FROM UNIVERISTY, LET ALONG GOTTEN THERE JOBS. ON ONE HAND WE HAVE A FUCKER THAT DOESNT EVEN KNOW HOW A BUSINESS IS RUN. NO BOB YOU CANT HAD A BUSINESS WHERE SALARY OR COSTS ARE NOT LINKED TO INCOME. IT JUST A FACT ITS NOT SMART. THE OWNERS WOULDNT BE OWNERS IF THEY FOLLOWED WHAT YOUR IDEAS YOU JACKASS. THEN WE GOT TED SASKIN. HMM... TED WHAT WAS IT THAT TO SAID THE OTHER DAY TO FUCKER." THE NHL PLAYERS WILL NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER PLAY UNDER A SYSTEM WHICH INVOLVES LINKAGE OR SALARY CAP OR COST CERTAINITY" FIRST OF ALL YOU FUCKER, ITS NOT PROPER GRAMMER TO TALK WITH THAT MANY 'NEVERS' AND 'EVERS' AND SECONDLY YOU SHOULD EB SHOT ONE THE SPOT FOR SO STOP YOU FROM CONTAMINATING THE REST OF THE HUMAN RACE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE YOU FUCKIN IDOIT THE OWNERS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE MONEY AWAY., SORRY ITS JSUT NOT THE SMART THING TO DO. IF THE LEAGUE PLAYERS ARE DEMANDING MORE MONEY THEN THAT OF THE TOTAL EARNINGS OF THE LEAGUE THEN IT DOESNT WORK. AND DONT GIVE ME THAT BULL SHIT ABOUT NHL PLAYERS BEEN THE PAID THE SMALLEST SALARIES OF ALL THE FOUR MAJOUR NORTH AMERICAN SPORTS. WHEN NHL AREAS CAN FIT 50 000 PPL AND THE NHL PLAYERS PLAY FUCKIN 180 GAMES A YEAR, THEN THEY WILLG ET 100 MILL SALARIES, WHEN YOU GET NHL CLUBS THAT ARE WORTH CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS THEN YOU CAN HAVE AND AVERAGE SALARY OF 5 MILLION DOLLARS. FUCKIN WHEN THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA START WATCHING HOCKEY AND GAMES GET RATINGS THAT ARE BETTER THEN FUCKIN POKER THEN YOU CAN GET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU WANT. UNTIL THE THE LEAGUE NEEDS A CAP OR LINKAGE AS I WOULD CALL IT. ANOTHER THINGS YOU GUYS CALL YOURSELF A UNION THAT FUCK ACT LIKE ONE AND TAKE A VOTE TELL ME WHEN THE NHL SAYS THAT THEY DONT WANT A 24% ROLL BACK BIUT A GRADUTED ONE THAT INVOLVES ROLLING BACK THE SALARIES OF THE 10 MILL PLAYER AND LEAVING THE FUCKIN 1 MIL PLAYER WHERE THEY ARE YOUR ALL LIKE NOW EVERYONE IS THE SAME, BUT WHAT THE FUCKERS DONT UNSTAND IS THAT ITS THE PLAYER LIKE BOBBY HOLEK WHO GET 8 MILL FOR DOING NOTHING THAT ARE THE PROBLEMS ITS THE SEAN PRONGERS THAT GET 10 MILL A YEAR NOT THE MATT COOKS WITH 1 MILL( 10 MILL MAN YOU KNOW THAT IS 1/3 OF THE ENTIRE SALARY THAT IS PAID TO ALL THE NASHVILLE PREDITORS PLAYERS, AND THEY GOT JUST AS FAR AS THE BLUES LAST YEAR) YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY GETS ON MY NERVES THOU IS WHEN PEOPLE INCLUDING THE MEDIA START GETTING ON THE OWNERS CASE NOW ABOUT NOT WANTING TH BARGAIN ABOUT DEMAINING A FUCKIN CAP, WELL GET WHAT FUCKERS WHO WAS IT THAT WAS TRYING TO GET THE PLAYERS TO THE TABLES FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS TO GET A NEW SYSTEM GOING, WHO THE FUCK WAS IT THAT OFTERED 6 NOT 1 6 FUCKIN PROPOSALS LAST SUMMER ALL THAT HAD LINKAGE BUT ONLY ONE OF WHICH WAS A HARD CAP. WHO WAS IT THAT OFFERED THE FUCKIN PLAYERS 57% OF ALL THE INCOME OF THE LEAGUE, IT WAS THE OWNERS, THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING GOING FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS WHILE THE PLAYERS LIKE FUCKERS LISTINING TO THAT IDOIT BOB GOODNOW SAT ON THERE ASSES.
NOW I AM IN A RUSH SO I CANT KEEP GOING BUT BELIEVE ME I CAN, BUT ILL POINT OUT ONE LAST ARTICLE THAT IS FUCKIN BULL SHIT. THE PLAYERS SAY OH WE CANT TRUST THE OWNERS CUS THEY OWN THE FUCKIN TV AND SHIT SO WE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ACTUAL INCOMES ARE, WELL GUESS WHAT THE OWNERS OTHER BUSINESS ARE KNOWN OF YOUR CONCERN, THEY ARE FUCKIN IN IT TO MAKE MONEY SO IF THEY USE THERE OWN REASOURSE TO DO STUFF THAT SOME TEAMS CANT THEN IT THERE PORGATIVE NOT YOUR AND YOU DONT AND SHOULDN'T BE ENTITLED TO ANY OF THAT MONEY. ITS JSUT NOT YOURS THE OWNERS ARE MAKING IT USING THERE BUSINESS NOT THE ONE YOUR IN.
thats all i gatta say. for now.
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*shimraa in his angery rampage takes the soap and breaks it in half, he then shoves one end up warblers ass and shoves the other one so far down his throat so that the two peices meet in the middle*
dont joke when i am this angery about something. i put a advisory up
"sry warbler, no hard feelings man" shimraa says, as warbler walks away with a slippery ass and a bad tast in his mouth.
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Because I know you very upset about the NHL season being cancelled, I will allow you to get away with your soap antics for now.......................BUT DON'T DO IT AGAIN !!!!
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todays news ted saskin and bill daily are meeting for dinnir tonight. and so because of that they postponed the new conference to wednesday. fuckers the idoits are going to come to a fuckin deal why don't they just come to it, end the season tommorow at 9 am et so the owners can start the impass process and be done with it.
now as for my speel i got at the players quite abit now for bettmen. fuckin we have such a dumb ass at the NHL helm that it isnt even funny. yes he is smarter then goodnow cus he sees that a business(which hands down but professional sports are nowadays) cant run without some sort of linking of costs and salaries. but this guy man he pisses me off, why because of how he acts. the guy is full of himself he is a small rich pencel pushing piece of shit that has never played hockey in his life and doesnt have an ounce of knowledge about the sport in his head. i said earlier why the players have no trust on the owners well this guy and the way he acts talking down to people he believes are less intellenge then him doesnt help the cause. hockey players for the most part a pretty honourable people(argue that if you want but its the truth), and i dont know about you guys but i dont like being talked down to especially by someone like bettman. the next case in point is the fact that this guy won't even be smart about what he does. the players back on december 9th offered a 6 year deal which said used the players method for 3 years then the if the nhl was in bad shape a cap would come into play. now i dont know but this seemed very fair to me see as the owner s could apply really really put soem money saving things into the deal in the final 3 years to make it so that the players would make there offer actually work. but no instead the jack ass jsut says no and walks away. it bullshit like that, which go the season canceled.
lol warbler
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Even if it does start up, do you think the fans will return to the NHL?
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http://sports.iwon.com/news/02152005/v8810.html?PG=home&SEC=news
Bastages.
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watch players are going to come back with 46 mill owners are going to say no
then tommorow jsut b4 the conference they will offer 44 take it or leave it. and that is what it'll be. it all comes down to that. the union is crumbling now, the NHL has them on there knees.
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So, I think they should get rid of offsides. Or bring it back to the way it used to be. There's stoppages every 5 seconds now from that.
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FUCKING IDOITS why is it that the dumbasses are always the ones that get the power.
i seriously cannot beleive bob goodnow, can he not take a hint
"Mr.Bettmann we all thought that you would settle at 45 million why didnt that happen and if the players came to you in the next couple of hours and offer 45 mill would you accept?"
" that is a good question, IF the players were to OFFER 45 million we would HAVE to look at our books first. IF they were to do this in the next 24 hours and we could get back on schedual then the season could theoritcally be saved"
now mr goodnow i believe in that statment from the NHL press conference this morning Mr. bettmen all but said we would accept 45 million. now you jackass go and offer it and we could paly some hockey. but no you cant go down another 4 million that would be horrible. the seas would fuckin boil and the world would come to an end. instead the proper course of action, the one that you took was to say that everything is off the table, to act like a 3 year old and give the impression that "oh bettman said that since the season is canceled they owners now needed linkage, so if he is going to do that ill get him back, all the players offers are off the table including the 24% roll back and everything, cus i am a lil baby and i want the last 5 fuckin months to have been a wast of time"
now to maddogg, you cant take offside out of the game it would be stupid if they did, how ever i agree with you there need to be fewer wistles, no i think to achieve this 2 rules need to be changed or one feature needs to be changed. first the rules, if the NHL were to take out the 2 line pass rule, which i think is rediculous longer passes could be made and you would see more break-aways and two on ones, the trap would also desolve because the neutral zone would seem bigger. also less trap = better hockey(80s hockey). the second rule would be to widen the blue lines, as it is now and offside is if the players foot is past the line if it is still on it its far game. widening the blue line would make all the zones bigger thereby killing the trap and making it easier to be onside. the second of these rules is already being tried out in the AHL. the last thing you could do is to make the rinks bigger make them international size. one of the reasons there are more stops in play is because of the clutching and grabing that is involve in the trap style of hockey. since players are bigger now then they were in the 80s this style has become more apparent in the play. increasing the rink size would spread out the play mroe and if players wanted to continue tp play this method they woudl risk creating wide open ice with would creat more flow and fast paced action.
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No center line works for me. Works in international play. As for the bigger rinks, that could be tricky. Arenas might have a hard time with that, but who knows. They might be able to work it.