JediExile said:
Point to where it’s hinted about Kylo’s feelings towards VaderSo Kylo is about to undertake the task of killing his father which makes him reassure Supreme Leader Snoke as to the fact that with his training he will not be seduced. Who else do we know that was seduced by the enemy when placed in a life or death situation with a family member? The very person we discover shortly after that Kylo idolizes. Vader
Once again though, the use of one word in a very specific situation can’t be applied to another situation like that. Vader pretty much had a huge hand in bringing the downfall of the Empire by killing the Emperor. While the use of the word “seduced” might imply that’s how the First Order might view those who go back/fall to the light, it doesn’t tell us anything about Vader who is partially responsible for the necessity of a splinter group. Do they hate him for it? Do they focus on his achievements? Do they deny his fall at all and blame the death of the Emperor on Luke? Is it just Kylo Ren that worships him? Why does Kylo Ren exactly worship him? Was it a moment of weakness or a definite betrayal?
So we know how the First Order feels about the act of turning to the light, but nothing about how they feel about Darth Vader. One single word is not enough to enlighten the audience of how the FO feels about Vader.
the Republic disarming 90% of their military and leading Leia to form the Resistance please.
I never said anything about the New Republic disarming 90% of it’s military; I just said they supported the Resistance and that is what I’m going to prove
From the opening crawl:
With the support of the REPUBLIC, General Leia Organa leads a brave RESISTANCE. She is desperate to find her brother Luke and gain his help in restoring peace and justice to the galaxy.
and from Hux’s speech
At this very moment in a system far from here, the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the loathsome Resistance!
That’s perfectly fine and all, but that’s not what concerns me. Sure, the Republic (or some members of the New Republic according to Wookiepedia) supported the Resistance, but that doesn’t tell me why there is a Resistance. That doesn’t tell me what happened to the Republic’s army.
These questions matter more than anything. These questions are not answered in the movie, but are answered in some random book or comic.
I never argued that it was explained how he performed so well in a space battle. I was talking about his ability to fly an X-Wing in the first place despite not being part of the Rebels before recently. But I’ll get into his performance too.
A short conversation with Obi-Wan leads to the audience knowing that Luke has become an excellent pilot and Luke’s remarks on the T-16 being similar to the X-Wings and being able to hit ~2 meter Womp Rats on Tatooine alleviates the issue of the audience’s suspension of disbelief being broken during the Trench run. And as SilverWook said, Luke was in real danger during parts of the Trench Run, especially during the end where Vader was about to shoot him down. The only reason Luke is alive is because Han and Chewie came back, something which doesn’t break suspension of disbelief because Han and Chewie are seen becoming attached to Luke/Leia over the course of the film, Han coming back to help save their asses is very in character. It also should be mentioned that Tarkin and Vader were extremely cocky about the Death Star as shown in a few scenes so they didn’t take the Rebel forces as seriously as they should have. All of this helps bit by bit to strengthen the audience’s suspension of disbelief and Luke’s survival in the end.Even with them saying things to shrink the disbelief factor it doesn’t dissipate it all. Womp rats can’t fire back and the T-16 did give him flying experience but it isn’t the same type of craft as an X-Wing and he didn’t have any difficulty flying. Call Rey a Mary Sue if you want but she at least struggled flying the Falcon and her overall performance was more realistic as she has never flown the Falcon before even though has flown other ships before. And even though he was in danger and was saved the likelihood of a pilot flying in such a circumstance without proper training would still be next to nil. But then again The Force…
Gonna disagree about Rey. She’s not a Mary Sue, but that scene with her “struggling” to fly the Falcon was pretty much her having a rough takeoff and skimming the sand wasn’t much of a struggle. She still managed to escape from 4(?) TIE Fighters with clever evasion skills, by flying through a hollowed out Star Destroyer with little room to move around in, and by flipping over the Falcon so the turret stuck in forward position and completely unable to move was able to perfectly align with the TIE Fighter chasing after them so Finn could shoot it down. That’s much more impressive in my opinion than anything Luke ever did in ANH with his X-Wing. Compensating for another person manning a turret in a completely different part of the ship is nothing less than amazing.
Luke in ANH was almost killed 3 times, was hit twice, and I believe took out only 1-2 TIE Fighters. The most impressive thing he really did in that battle was land the shot at the end, but during a couple of moments before the Trench Run Obi-Wan guided him through the Force and like I said earlier Luke wasn’t exactly new to hitting 2 meter targets. Also you can really just apply the “he/she just used the Force” argument to that moment while you can’t really to Rey doing a flip and lining a perfect shot up for Finn.