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Mike, any chance of a shot-list, for those of us sitting on the raw materials and edit systems, who want to attempt this.

A "StarWarsLegacy dvd restoration kit" or something like that.

It would make a good edit project for those of us who want to keep up our skills with AVID or FCP.

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Originally posted by: DanielBif I put a quote of you saying that at the top will it make you happy?


To be honest, Daniel, I don't actually care that much. See, you can put up all the quotes you want; you can draw pictures illustrating your perceptions of hypocrisy and double-standard. You can compose soliloquies, you can do performance art pieces; it just doesn't matter. You'll never be able to disprove the intent of the author. It's not a matter that's subject to debate. You may struggle to understand the distinctions I've made, perhaps because you find the whole idea so philosophically repugnant, but in the end, this struggle is your own.

You see, were you ever fortunate enough to join me for a viewing of the Star Wars Legacy Edition, I suspect you'd have little argument. Without the website, you'd have no idea what I'd done. You can't see it. If you're tortured enough to have committed every error to memory, and notice, for example, that the frame no longer jumps on an R2-D2 edit, then you weren't watching the movie in the first place, you're not watching the story, you're not the true audience. And the audience is who this restoration, and every movie is for. Since the day I saw Star Wars at age 5, I have committed every day of my life to being an artist, and part of being a successful artist means remembering how to see your work like everyone else. When I go to movies, I don't watch for the effects, I don't listen for the sound design. I COULD... and perhpas on subsequent viewings, for experience's sake, I'll deconstruct them. But I can "turn off" 27 years of training, and simply enjoy the movie. That's really what this is all about. This restoration is for me, and it's a thing of beauty, I can tell you. But nobody said you had to like it, I suppose. I didn't ask. Here's a recommendation:

If you're philosophically opposed to the whole idea, and want to continue posting to that effect, please understand that I've really done as much explaining of my position as I care to. I'm sorry, but I don't have anything else to add.

If you want to address or inquire about specific things, you can expect a response. But I hope I haven't given the impression that the Legacy Edition is a "made-to-order" piece. I have few ambiguities about what needs addressing, and even fewer about how to address them.

In the end, something for all of us to remember: Star Wars is a piece of film, and art history, because of its ability to inspire. It has inspired change in art, commerce, society, and philosophy. Most anyone who takes the time to post on a board like this, does so because they, too are a fan. Sometimes, people have such pathetic existences that they have to troll message boards and get people riled up... it's better than the total isolation of their sad lives, and it's some form of social interaction they can actually control. These are the people who tell you they're cool with being assholes. They're not. They're sad and they're lonely, and if they're not going to get the positive attention they seek, then they're going to get attention for making people upset. Anything's better than lonliness.

We assume this isn't you, Daniel, but I think your subsequent posts will settle the matter, inasmuch as I've made my position, and my requests clear. It's your call.

_Mike

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Originally posted by: skyman8081
Mike, any chance of a shot-list, for those of us sitting on the raw materials and edit systems, who want to attempt this.

A "StarWarsLegacy dvd restoration kit" or something like that.

It would make a good edit project for those of us who want to keep up our skills with AVID or FCP.


I'm not sure what form this would take, skyman... and to be honest, I'm not sure I need to be doing any additional work in regards to the restoration. The website alone is enough. I say this having just finished the Falcon vs TIE scene, and realizing I had 60 screencaps to annotate. I have to edit that down, and do the setup. It takes a bit. But let me know what you're thinking...

_Mike

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I think skyman was thinking of a more in depth description than the shot/change list already on your site. Simply stating what you altered, not exactly how you did it, so that those interested could obtain editing practice by learning how to do it themselves... Though I don't want to speak for him, that is at least what I would greatly enjoy.
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Originally posted by: zecoli
I think skyman was thinking of a more in depth description than the shot/change list already on your site. Simply stating what you altered, not exactly how you did it, so that those interested could obtain editing practice by learning how to do it themselves... Though I don't want to speak for him, that is at least what I would greatly enjoy.


Oh god, does that sound like a nightmare. I've already detailed what's been changed, the next step would be "frame 1023, shift pixels -2 horizontal, +1 vertical, frame 1054, pull -6 points of red, boost yellow +4 points, rebalance luminance curve to exponential."

I don't think so. Christ, it'd take me a year just to go back and figure out what I did. There are hundreds of micro adjustments that have been done. Each shot on the Tantive for example, I mean each angle in the edit, has its own layer with its own set of adjustments. This stuff isn't easy, folks.

If that's what's being requested, don't count on it. What bums me out is I thought the website was pretty damn thorough.

_Mike

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Not to hijack a thread or anything but -

DanielB, if you don't mind, could you change your avatar? I'd rather not be confusing my posts with your posts. Thanks.
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Not to hijack a thread or anything but -

DanielB, if you don't mind, could you change your avatar? I'd rather not be confusing my posts with your posts. Thanks.


I already confused his with yours. I was kinda peeved.

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Mike, did you pull the reds down in the trash compactor scene. It looks like they pulled it up for the DVD release when I watched it.

I'll see if I can get some screencaps of what I am talking about with this.

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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh


DanielB, if you don't mind, could you change your avatar? I'd rather not be confusing my posts with your posts. Thanks.

You can change the name of a rose, but you can't do nothing about the smell.

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I don't think it has anything to do with that ADM. He's referring to how one can confuse posts by looking at the avatar and not the name. I changed mine to this when I kept confusing my posts with Hal 9000's. We need more avys.


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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
I don't think it has anything to do with that ADM. He's referring to how one can confuse posts by looking at the avatar and not the name. I changed mine to this when I kept confusing my posts with Hal 9000's. We need more avys.


We need to get the submit-your-own avatar working again...I've been trying to submit a Donnie Darko avatar until I was informed by Jay that it hasn't worked for a looooooooong time...
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I've tried to up an avatar a couple times myself. Actually "host your own" (which phpBB supports) is a method *I* particularly prefer.

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Well mike, I don't want to waste any more space praising your efforts because I think that after 240 posts to your thread it is clear to everyone that the work you are doing is unique. So well done for starters.
But the puprose of my post is not to state what has already been said about the quality of your work. I just wanted to share some thoughts I had while reading all the previous posts. I think that in this whole thread, there is something hidden between the lines, and that is everyone's (mine too) remote hope to someday acquire this copy of SW, and their frustration about your clear statement that is is "for your eyes only". I can see no other reason for the tremendous interest people have shown. I know you know that, and I believe that you feed on that. I don't say that to accuse you, it is perfectly normal and human to feel good for yourself when people want something from you, you are not willing to give. It gives you a sence of power that you like to hold on to. My objection is to the extend this has been happening.
Secondly, it makes my wonder: How can a creator of something, feel that his creation has been completed, when it is sealed in a safe, not fullfilling it's puprose (to entertain in your case)? Maybe it is just me, but every single thing I have ever created (my creations are not relevant to this forum, they are of another nature) gave me this feeling of completion only when it was in the open. But then I realised that this thread suites you perfectly: You gain the approval of your audience, without actually having to share your work. My opinion is that this is not the right way for a creator, artist or collector to satisfy his passion.
By my post, I don't want to diminish the help you have given to people by "enlightening" them on matters of techinque and matterials, I just wanted to light another aspect of this thred. I could of course be 100% wrong.
I look foreward to reading your opinion.
And now, for your feature presentation:
The Classic Re-re-re-release of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back.
In this version the word "WOOKIE" has been changed to "HAIR CHALLENGED ANIMAL" and the entire cast has been digitally replaced by Ewoks.
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First of all, I'm not the creator, so it's not mine to share. George Lucas is the creator, and he said, "no."

Secondly, as an artist, my original works are well enough public to be scrutinized, criticized, praised, or what have you. I hardly need the pseudo protectorate of this one-way dialog you describe to survive as an artist; the whole idea of which I disagree with philosophically.

I can't share the work without becoming the world's largest hypocrite, since I make my living on royalities from my own art. I also would be breaking the law, and seeding some seriously bad mojo by betraying the work that inspired my life's pursuits.

One thing we all have the freedom to do is exactly what I've done: restore it for ourselves, as we see fit. That's what I've done. And further, I'm telling people about it for 2 reasons:

1) To help people to do it for themselves.

2) To demonstrate, and educate as many people as possible about how far the current incarnations have fallen from the versions which made them legends, in hopes that increased awareness will increase demand.

I don't blame people for wanting copies... I would, too. But I hope that if people respect the true dedication and care I've given to the project, that they will also respect that I want to do the right thing. Especially in a world where people who stand for any sort of principle or honor are virtually extinct. "Be the change you wish to see in the world, " said Ghandi. So I am.

_Mike

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WOW! You really answered fast!
I don't see any point where we might disagree.
But it really made me sad seeing all these people desperately wanting something they won't get
And now, for your feature presentation:
The Classic Re-re-re-release of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back.
In this version the word "WOOKIE" has been changed to "HAIR CHALLENGED ANIMAL" and the entire cast has been digitally replaced by Ewoks.
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damn Mike, you know, this is really so damn frustrating

I mean, it's right there and it exists (I wouldn't have the technical know-how to do what you've done, not to mention the time) and for many of us it's like pouring water out onto the sands of a desert

but anyways, so George Lucas himself knows about this and refused allowing you to release it? I say that we oughtta lobby Lucasarts to hire this guy for restoring the prints (think about it. this is nice, but a proper restoration would have a 4000 resolution).
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adlai:

I agree, I am sure you meant Lucasfilm Ltd.

LucasARTS is too busy with Empire at War ( <3 ) and SWG.

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Mike,

I enjoy checking the site to see **how** you are doing what you are doing and what errors you are pointing out. It makes it easier for those of us that might want to take the DVD and **fix** these problems. In fact, I had gotten as far as the Tantive stuff on my VIAO before the slave drive crashed and lost the project.

So, anyways.....keep up the good work. Can't wait to see the next update.
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Ahh, backups backups backups - you gotta love those new 'one touch' 200GB extrernal backup drives!
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Mike,

It says you made an update on March 9, yet I can't find any changes to the site??

Also, what's the reason behind discontinuing the larger images being able to pop up when clicked on in the tutorial?
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