Didn’t like The Force Awakens at all.
Finn was a ridiculous character. Raised from birth as a Stormtrooper, “programmed” to be obedient (General Hux’s words), and he absolutely loses it on his first mission. I wouldn’t have a problem with this if he wasn’t programmed from birth and the First Order recruited like the Empire did, but it is an issue and leads to his character feeling forced. I would have greatly preferred if Finn slowly broke his brainwashing over the course of the movie instead of at the beginning. It would have led to a much more believable character.
No matter how much you try to brainwash certain people with poisonous ideologies some will still remain decent and Finn is such a person. Whether it be from Satanic Cults or the Nazis there have been multiple people throughout history that have seen the side they were fighting/siding with for what they really are and decided to split from them
This isn’t an issue with Finn being a good person or not. It’s an issue with the First Order. Imagine you’re a rising evil Empire. Now you’re abducting babies and preparing them to fight for you. You want to do evil things because you’re evil so you want your soldiers to carry out those evil things. You’d obviously prepare them for combat, but you’d also prepare them for following orders like “kill these innocent people” or “steal candy from this child”. If they fail to follow out those orders, reprogram them (the First Order is able to do that after all, they say it in the movie) or kill them and move on. If Finn is just a good guy, how did he even get through training? Do they not prepare their evil soldiers to be evil?
but she acts like an ass to Finn when she meets him
Yes because everyone would be ecstatic that they’re marked for death by the First Order when it’s another’s fault.
Yeah except he didn’t do anything. She attacked him and got in his way, she would have been “marked for death” anyways if she was found with that droid. If Finn wasn’t there and didn’t drag her away from those First Order troops, (guy saves your life and the first thing that comes to mind is to complain about him dragging your ass from danger, good shit Rey) she would have been killed. If Finn didn’t drag her away AGAIN when the TIE Fighters were doing runs on the Junkyard, (again she complains about her hand being held, I just don’t understand Rey) she would have been blown to pieces. If there’s anyone to actually blame for putting Rey in danger, it’s BB-8.
Why does Finn even care that he lied to her?
For the same reason he defected and it’s bec…ause he’s a good person. I don’t understand how such a simple concept is so jarring to you.
Being a good person has nothing to do with telling a white lie like that. Rey just beat Finn to a pulp and BB-8 was clearly not happy with him for having Poe’s jacket. The last thing I’d want to tell a girl that seems to have respect for Resistance and a droid whose master was just supposedly killed by the First Order is “I’m a Stormtrooper, please help me”. Once again, they just met. Caring about telling a little white lie to someone you don’t even know isn’t something to care about.
Kylo Ren is just confusing to me. He worships Vader, a Sith Lord who turned to the light. Not only that, he prays(?) to Vader’s helmet (how did he get that?) to help him stay on the dark side? Is the First Order unaware of Vader turning back to the light and redeeming himself? Kylo was a student of Luke right, shouldn’t he know this too? Does the First Order not acknowledge this happened?
"By the grace of your training I will not be seduced" - Kylo Ren
He knows Vader was redeemed but believes he was seduced by the enemy.
That one word isn’t enough to convince me of Kylo’s opinion on Vader. If he actually does believe Vader was seduced by the light, then why bother asking his mask for help when Kylo feels pulled by the light? If he wants to idolize Vader for his achievements as a Sith Lord, fair game. But literally asking him for help in THAT situation seems incredibly silly.
And how would Kylo even form the opinion that Vader was seduced by the light? He didn’t know Vader and we don’t even know how he began to worship him. We do know that Luke trained him and we can assume that Luke probably told him about his grandfather, but that doesn’t explain how Kylo came to the conclusion that Vader turning to the light was bad. Kylo didn’t know Vader and Luke was the only one to hear his final words when he died. What other living person could even have a valid opinion on Vader aside from Luke?