Harmy's Despecialized Star Wars 1977 - Color Adjustment Project for v2.7 (released) — Page 25

The annoyance of reading a thread full of link requests is somewhat now mitigated by someone making a Curb reference…even if it was messed up.

LeLwrence said:

Colson said:

LeLwrence said:

Memorex said:

AHandofJacks said:

Hey Towne, if your gonna make a 16:9 cropped version, can you make me a pan and scan version? It’s ideal for my CRT TV and I think most people would agree with me when I say it is the optimal way to watch Star Wars.

Sign me up for one Towne! Star Wars had no black bars in the cinema AFAIK, so I agree it’s completely ridiculous to add them to this project to begin with. I want the original version. I though this project was about the original version but clearly not. Hmpfh!

Since a few of you actually want pan and scan, this is a project you can do yourself and post on these forums. Just like Towne32 did a color correction of Harmy’s Despecialized and TN1’s SSE, you can take these sources and create your own pan and scan version.

I think/hope the two you quoted were joking.

I wish, but I think they actually want a Pan and Scan version. I mean sure they can want it, and they can even crop it themselves. But asking Towne to do it is pushing it.

Yes, I was joking. Towne has already done enough work as it is!

Yeah, but what happened to making a version for vertical cell phone viewing? The last thing we want when holding our phones proud and tall is black bars, or the full image.

What about those of us who have triangular tablets?

yoda-sama said:

Yeah, but what happened to making a version for vertical cell phone viewing? The last thing we want when holding our phones proud and tall is black bars, or the full image.

I knew i was in the majority, see ^ someone else admits they want this!

The joke is dead, long live the joke! 😛

Wazzles said:

What about those of us who have triangular tablets?

You can do it towne

Looking forward to 2.7… sounds and looks great so far (from what I’ve seen). Gladly gonna seed on the 'spleen once ready!

Not sure if this issue was noticed to death already, but on the Death Star scene, right before the shot with Stormtroopers searching the Falcon, there seems to be some sort of screen-torn brightness (blue color fade?) on the top right (and maybe the rest of it?). It looks like that brightness was slightly bumped up.

http://puu.sh/ojG3m/1d87dfd1af.png

Edit: Again probably just me, but there seems to be an audio glitch (pop?) for the 1977 70mm six track mix (5.1) at 33:07 (Occurs in Windows Media Player and Media Player Classic, but not in VLC).

Well, I can now say this is easily the best looking unaltered Star Wars ever released. This is definitely gonna be definitive until the hypothetical day an official version comes out. And that’s assuming it’s not botched; i.e. a new, high quality transfer is made with immaculate restoration work and a good sound mix. But until or unless that holy grail comes out, this is the one to beat.

Hi Towne,

one thing i have noticed and i wondered about. Why didn´t you have replaced the whole shot with TN1´s material?

The Dewback looks a bit “stamped in”.

I repeat! Great work Towne!

The SSE shot is much lower quality than the surrounding material from the BD. It would need to be re-rotoscoped (i.e. ‘stamped in’) using a cleaned up, stabilized SSE shot. And even then I think it would be a lot of work to get it looking better. It’s probably on Harmy’s 3.0 to do list.

Thank you Towne. I have checked the SSE and you are absolutely correct.

Is it just me, or does 2.7 have more artifacts than 2.5? Like at 42:22-42:26 as Obi-Wan moves his head the artifacts around it are visible and move as well. But again, it could have also been his way in 2.5, I don’t have a copy right now so I could’nt verify it.
Otherwise, especially color-wise, I see a huge improvement. Awesome work!

ksakacep said:

Is it just me, or does 2.7 have more artifacts than 2.5? Like at 42:22-42:26 as Obi-Wan moves his head the artifacts around it are visible and move as well. But again, it could have also been his way in 2.5, I don’t have a copy right now so I could’nt verify it.
Otherwise, especially color-wise, I see a huge improvement. Awesome work!

I have no problems with people pointing out stuff like this. But I would request that people do please try to make the comparison before bringing it up, just to make sure that we can focus discussion on things that are definitely occurring. There are a bit of artifacts in this shot for both versions. Overall, I do not think 2.7 has more throughout the film since it was made from the same master using the same settings. But yeah, as far as blu-ray shots, those artifacts you point out are the most noticeable in the entire film for me and I’ve seen them in a variety of different encodes. I don’t know if it’s a matter of the VBR being low for the very low-movement shot and then needing to rapidly ramp up for the wipe or what.

toykyle said:

Not sure if this issue was noticed to death already, but on the Death Star scene, right before the shot with Stormtroopers searching the Falcon, there seems to be some sort of screen-torn brightness (blue color fade?) on the top right (and maybe the rest of it?). It looks like that brightness was slightly bumped up.

http://puu.sh/ojG3m/1d87dfd1af.png

On some of my calibrated displays it’s not very noticeable. But on a display with kind of blown out black levels I see what you’re talking about. It’s there on the blu-ray as well. I’m not sure if it’s something they screwed up in 2004 or if that’s just how it was composited. Also, I’m pretty sure your image is from 2.5. If it is indeed an error it probably belongs in Harmy’s troubleshooting thread so that he can do something for 3.0. It looks like it might not be an error, but maybe its appearance can be optimized like some of the garbage mattes and slugs.

edit: Yep, I think it might be a 2004 thing.

Edit: Again probably just me, but there seems to be an audio glitch (pop?) for the 1977 70mm six track mix (5.1) at 33:07 (Occurs in Windows Media Player and Media Player Classic, but not in VLC).

The audio mixes aren’t done by me (or even Harmy) and they do have their own threads, I think. I don’t do any encoding of the audio (and believe me that you don’t want me messing with that!). But you are probably right that it might be a WMP specific thing. I didn’t even know it would run the mkv or DTS-HD. But then, I haven’t used it in many many years.

towne32 said:

toykyle said:

Not sure if this issue was noticed to death already, but on the Death Star scene, right before the shot with Stormtroopers searching the Falcon, there seems to be some sort of screen-torn brightness (blue color fade?) on the top right (and maybe the rest of it?). It looks like that brightness was slightly bumped up.

http://puu.sh/ojG3m/1d87dfd1af.png
edit: Yep, I think it might be a 2004 thing.

It’s not on the SSE, so probably.

Is 2.7 released? I don’t see it on spleen or blu

Looking forward to a spleen AVCHD share for 2.7! LOVED 2.6. 😃

Hi, could Towne32 or anyone else send me a link to the Star Wars Despecialized 2.7 MKV? I’d gladly appreciate it, thanks.

Actually… How DO you get version 2.7, anyways? Is it on Tehparadox or somewhere else?

If you give it a week or so, it’ll be available in the normal places, otherwise you have to suffer getting a 20GB file through MEGA (I experienced many failures and then shameful security concessions to see it through…).

Looks great, though. Even my wife said so (compared to previous editions, no less), and, while she loves Star Wars, she does not have nearly the constant passion and determination for it that I do… So it takes a lot these days for her to care to say anything.

Yes should be very soon, sorry for the delay.