How can a film where most of the actions of the characters/villains in said film is to find Luke indicate that that’s not what the plot is about? That makes absolutely no sense.
And like I said that before wouldn’t that make the events in STAR WARS filler too by that same logic.
How can a film where most of the actions of the characters/villains in said film is to find Luke indicate that that’s not what the plot is about? That makes absolutely no sense.
Sorry I am not going to go through the same argument again.
And like I said that before wouldn’t that make the events in STAR WARS filler too by that same logic.
The main focus of the Star Wars is death star. You just cannot take it out of the film, like you easily could take out search for Luke from TFA.
真実
If you took the search for Luke out of the film the film wouldn’t make any sense and wouldn’t have happened in the first place. The map is what lead the First Order and Poe to Jakku which lead to Finn defecting when he did and rescuing Poe which lead them to crash on the planet which lead him to Rey and so on and so forth. I don’t understand…
The main focus of the Star Wars is death star. You just cannot take it out of the film, like you easily could take out search for Luke from TFA.
Do you think my suggestion could’ve improved TFA in this regard?
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
^ I do 😃
Thank you! 😉
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- That BB-8 wasn’t given a female persona (Pretty minor and inconsequential nitpick, I know.).
You are one weird dude.
Um, ok.
You bothered to actually respond to a response that wasn’t actually worth responding to since it’s lack of seriousness doesn’t warrant said response?
Sounds reasonable.
I’m sick and tired of sounding reasonable all the time.
If you took the search for Luke out of the film the film wouldn’t make any sense and wouldn’t have happened in the first place. The map is what lead the First Order and Poe to Jakku which lead to Finn defecting when he did and rescuing Poe which lead them to crash on the planet which lead him to Rey and so on and so forth. I don’t understand…
真実
The main focus of the Star Wars is death star. You just cannot take it out of the film, like you easily could take out search for Luke from TFA.
Do you think my suggestion could’ve improved TFA in this regard?
I guess it would a little.
真実
I didn’t like that Rey made two connecting strikes against Kylo that looked like she had cut off his leg, and then killed him with a head shot. Instead, we just see part of his outfit get cut off, and he gets a cool, Anakin-like scar. The way it was shot and choreographed, it didn’t look like those would be graze wounds.
Worst of all, it took me out of the film when she suddenly gained Force knowledge at the perfect moment, twice. Without any training whatsoever, she suddenly knows the Jedi mind trick, and later, how to successfully fight off a Jedi and Sith trained warrior. I liked how the OT was realistic in some ways. Maybe realistic is not the right word, but they avoided cliche’s at certain points in order to make what’s most a typical fairy tale story, fresh.
For example, despite Luke being the hero, we don’t a chance to see him go King Arthur, and kick ass with is father’s sword. Luke doesn’t end up getting the girl (and not because Lucas changed it to her being his sister). And Luke doesn’t magically save the day when he first confronts Vader. He not only loses to him, but loses his left hand in the process.
The protagonist losing against the villain in the second act of a play is a cliché. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
I’ll tell you what I didn’t like about TFA.
That squished and asymmetric Star Destroyer.
imperialscum said:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/926197
That means fuckall. If it were that way of course you’d adjust dialogue to be about the map and not Luke and somehow put Luke somewhere else in the plot which would change things a bit. Doesn’t mean the focus of the plot wouldn’t be about the map if you changed mcguffins.
But if you want to hold that inane statement as fact. By all means but there’s no point in trying to convince you of anything; I should have learned that lesson long ago.
Thought this would be a good place to put this.
BmB said:
If not for Rey’s annoying “I don’t need no help from a MAN” attitude
You mean the fact that she doesn’t want Finn to hold her hand due to her being able to run perfectly on her own? How dare she!
Finn would be little more than a Gary Stu counterpart. His ability to fight competently with a lightsaber without any training or force sensitivity at all is insane.
Finn still got his ass kicked twice and could have been killed within 10 seconds by Kylo had he not wanted to drag the fight out…
[…] there’s no point in trying to convince you of anything […]
No need to, we are all here just to share and discuss our thoughts with the other fans.
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Well, impscum is rather intractable. Discussions with him get pretty tired pretty quick.
I didn’t like the times when JJA played tricks on the audience:
Yes, there are several times in the old movies when the audience is tricked … but only because we are following a character that himself is tricked.
The gimmicks in TFA were just that: gimmicks. Gimmicks like that don’t belong in Star Wars.
Darth Lars said:
Hologram that we are not supposed to think is a hologram when we first see it.
Am I the only one who’s heart droped when Snoke was first shown? But the euphoria when it was revealed to be a hologram was almost worth it.
But it didn’t belong in Star Wars. Just like the fade out/in in ANH didn’t belong in Star Wars.
Honestly I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
No problem with the hologram, but I think I’m not the only one who thought Snoke belongs to Hogwarts 😄 A friend of mine even said Kylo looks like a young Snape.
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I didn’t like the times when JJA played tricks on the audience:
- Nose of Star Destroyer that has the silhouette of an X-wing
I don’t think that was supposed to be a trick; it went by too quickly for it to work, at least for me. However I’m probably never going to unsee that now, so there’s that.
As for my own complaints, the easiest ones that come to mind are some choices in editing. I’ll use the fight at Maz’s Cantina as my example. The shot between when the group gets taken into custody has a fairly sudden cut to the Stormtroopers preparing to fight the oncoming X-wings. When I watch it I can’t help but feel like there was supposed to be a scene between those two shots. Later on in the fight, when Ren meets Rey, it cuts to a stormtrooper making a remark about needing air support, and then the next cut goes back to the two of them, with a Storm Trooper coming in asking for said air support. You probably could have put the “we need air support” at the end of the scene with the X-wings, and then not interrupt the Rey/Kylo Ren scene.
As I said, empty filler to bind the crap together. The film would be the same without it.
I disagree. In my opinion, Luke Skywalker vanishing in a self-imposed exile was sheer brilliance on the part of J. J. Abrams. It was one of the few creative decisions that I liked in The Force Awakens.
It would be brilliant if it was actually a focus of the story and properly explored/utilised, rather than being an empty filler.
Anyway what makes you think it was JJ’s idea in the first place?
Well, he was the main screenwriter and the director, so I am assuming it was his idea…
Does imperialscum own stock in Empty Filler Holding Corporation?
