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Post #928032

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yotsuya
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Filmmaker and New Yorker film critic Richard Brody's thoughts on the prequels.
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Date created
12-Apr-2016, 12:58 PM

adywan said:

yotsuya said:

Lord Haseo said:

Dek Rollins said:
Now you’re just avoiding making a real argument, which shows me that you have no way of arguing your opinion on the matter.

Me posting evidence of their heavy Asian accent is making a real argument unlike you who has been trying to worm your way around it and hiding in the shade of Lucas’ nutsack.

Me posting that is like me debating with a fundamentalist Christian who doesn’t believe in evolution and posting Homo Habilis or something to only meet a response of “you’re not making an argument”

Please find a video of Asians talking that way. You have 89 years of film and television to choose from. And Asian is so specific. Are they speaking with a Chinese, Mongolian, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, or Indonesian accent? The answer is none of those and also not like any white person in yellow face faking an accent. Their accent is unique and unspecific. The closest I have heard was Reggie Nalder (and Austrian who played the Andorian Ambassador in Journey to Babel). But it is not Asian.

Having grown up with the TV of the 60’s & 70’s here in the uk with the likes of It Aint 'arf hot mum, mind your language, Benny Hill, Spike Milligan, Alf Garnet and a host of other comedies and comedians, the accents in TPM are racial stereotypes and very typical of the type of “white person doing an accent” that we use to get. The nemoidians are very much like the way the comedies portrayed an Asian accent (the Chinese being the traders). Watto is completely the old style Jew (The shop keeper and money man. Remember the hat? Well you know what that was originally based upon…) etc etc. It’s the same type of thing george did with making the bad guys (Empire) British. Was it blatant racism? probably not. More like an old guy stuck in an era past. You have to remember that these characters were based on georges notes during the design stage. he would have given the designers a full description of the character which most likely included what they sounded like. Then , when it came time to record the characters voices, george was there in the studio directing them as to what he wanted them to sound like, including any accents. the accents were deliberate.

peter Sellers Fu Man Chu is very similar to the accent of the nemoidians and the way Nute speaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgMWhJUS50

Let’s examine that Fu Man Chu clip, shall we. What is his accent? Well, he really doesn’t have one. He is speaking in a scratchy voice, but his words are pronounced pretty much normal. So, nothing really Asian about it at all. An accent requires a shift in pronunciation, pacing, phrasing, not just a change in vocal tone. I will agree that the Nemoidians have the same scratchy voice, but that does not make it an accent. Some who did yellow face adopted a more nasal way of talking, but that is entirely differnt as is their pace of talking. Those quintessential aspects of white people trying to portray Asians are absent form the Nemoidians.

And Watto… seriously? Jewish? Why, because of the hat in Episode II… the Don Quixote metal hat? No, he is Steptoe/Sanford - a stereotypical junk dealer, not a Jewish knockoff. Just look at the pics of Steptoe - the long nose, the frequent unshaven appearance, the bad teeth, the narrow face. Watto doesn’t have a beard, he has stubble. There is a big difference. No, you reading more into this than there is. And there are plenty of people in this world who love money who aren’t Jewish, so claiming that has anything connection is really ridiculous, especially since it is just one of the many parallels Watto has with Steptoe and Sanford.

As for Jar Jar… I’ll take Ahmed Best’s word for it.