Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles) — Page 48

carlosmon said:

Hello. I found a little mistake in ROTJ-es-es-titles.srt.

8
00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:10,600
…ha comenzado en secreto la construcción
de una nueva espacial armada…

It should be:
8
00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:10,600
…ha comenzado en secreto la construcción
de una nueva estación espacial armada…

Compare with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezcJuSg3_A

Good call! I will make this change, and also I’ve got someone else going through the Castilian subtitles and providing improvements in many other places.

marto666 said:

Hi, I’m looking for the subtitles for the trilogy. In Spanish. Spanish Spain and Latin Spanish. Thanks in advance

Martin

PM sent.

Yes, we’ve got Swedish subs for the whole trilogy. PM sent.

PM sent. You came to the right place.

Project files have been updated to version 9.1 (codename: “Overengineering Strikes Back”), first post has been updated, please PM me for temporary download links until the files are available at some more permanent locations.

• The change that may take the most time to adjust to is that I switched all the language codes from ISO 639-1 (two letters) to ISO 639-3 (three letters). Why? I’d initially thought there would be no way on Earth I’d ever add support for a language outside the 180-odd language codes covered by ISO 639-1, but it seems I may have been wrong. This change lays the groundwork for future language support, but there’s nothing in this release that requires it. Yet 😉
• Added titles-only support for the Navajo dub of Star Wars, and included a modified version of MuxMan that allows you to create DVDs using the correct language code for Navajo. However, I am not adding Navajo to my list of supported languages, since there are still no complete Navajo subtitles for any of the films
• Similarly, added titles-only support for the currently incomplete Hindi dubs (thanks to Anuj)
• Improved European Portuguese translations (thanks to stormpack)
• Improved Turkish translation for Jedi (thanks to aserdaryakut)
• Improved Castilian translations (thanks to Hostmaster and carlosmon)
• Improved Greek translation for Star Wars (thanks to sf999)
• Fixed typo in Japanese translation for Star Wars (thanks to DevilWing)
• “Matching” subtitles have been reworked to much more closely resemble theatrical alien subtitles. Example screenshots in the first post have been updated.
• As part of the matching subtitle project, included newly-created fonts that, at the right size and weight, closely resemble the theatrical alien subtitles (on English-language prints, at least)
• Added new utilities, subtitles and procedures to better support preservations without burnt-in alien subtitles
• Added new utilities and procedures to allow users to scale graphical subtitles (33%-110%) to a size more appropriate for their display, while maintaining all of the formatting and positioning niceties (i.e. for large projection screens – thanks to Harmy for the inspiration and the large-screen testing) An example screenshot has been added to the first post.
• Project Threepio is now 1080p-native, with 720p subtitles available as downscales, rather than the reverse. A side-effect of this change is that the 1080p files are a lot smaller, and the whole project archive is noticeably smaller (although it’s still quite large), as my previous upscaling script had a bug that needlessly inflated the file sizes.

Project Threepio’s matching subtitles are now designed to match theatrical prints rather than specific preservations. Because of this, they do not match Star Wars Despecialized 2.5 as well as they used to, but future Despecialized releases, including towne32’s color adjusted Despecialized Edition, will match better because they’ll be more theatrically accurate.

Up until now, supporting preservations without burnt-in subtitles has really worked well only for non-English subtitles. You just shifted the subtitles back down to the bottom of the frame, and you were done. But because English subtitles are missing the alien text, assuming they’ll be burnt-in, the past solution was to re-render new English subtitles from an alternate SRT file. However, that wasn’t really good enough – the alien subtitles rendered in this fashion wouldn’t look anywhere near as nice as the burnt-in subtitles, as they wouldn’t be the right font, and so on. Even if you used the new improved matching subtitles, it wouldn’t be good enough.

So in this version, I’ve added a new kind of graphical-only subtitle: “alien”, which subtitle only the alien dialogue, and look almost exactly like the theatrical alien subtitles (they’re graphical-only because they’re based on 35mm scans, not rendered from a font). In addition to these graphical subs, there’s a new script called submerge, which merges native (or matching) subtitles with alien subtitles to produce subtitles that cover every line of dialogue, while retaining the closest possible theatrical fidelity for the sections with subtitled alien dialogue.

The results are really, really good. A sub-free preservation could use the “alien” subtitles as the default track, then use merged subtitles for people who want to watch with English subtitles – and while the results can’t ever be quite as perfect as with burnt-in subtitles, they’d be awfully close. Theoretically, this same method could be used to create theatrically accurate alien subtitles in other languages, using scans of international prints. You could even use the new Project Threepio Matching fonts to produce credible imitations of the threatrical subtitles in some other languages.

PM’s sent.

PM please with all of them! The entire pack! 😃 Pretty impresive all the new adds, specially the “graphical-only subtitles” based on 35mm scans

PM sent. The graphical-only subtitles for the alien dialogue will get some improvement in the next release. ROTJ was pretty much perfect, but SW needed some attention. Lots of matching improvements in the works as well.

Of course! PM sent.

PM sent.

We could definitely use an Arabic editor. I’ve sent you a message, check your spam.

Project files have been updated to version 9.2 (codename: “Touch-Up”), first post has been updated, please PM me for temporary download links until the files are available at some more permanent locations. This update is a cosmetic update–no actual translations were changed in any way from 9.1–so graphical subtitles are the only things changed, with matching subtitles and their related files getting the most attention.

Rough summary of changes from 9.1 to 9.2:

• More improvements to matching subtitles. All matching fonts are now designed to work at normal weight, which should make things a little easier for people using them for other purposes.
• Graphical-only alien subtitles for Star Wars are now nearly as good as those for Jedi (and the ones for Jedi were/are nearly perfect).
• Included instructions and a new font for those who wish to create matching subtitles that mimic the appearance of international 35mm prints (much thanks to thxita, Leonardo, and Laserschwert for reference material, font help, and advice).
• Using these instructions, created reconstructions of the Italian theatrical alien subtitles for Star Wars and Jedi, and the German theatrical subtitles for Jedi. These are the only subtitles for which I had references, so no other reconstructions of international alien subtitles are provided. People could use these instructions to create them using the current Project Threepio translations, but these translations are unlikely to be identical to the theatrical translations.
• Fixed a very minor bug in image resizing operations which was probably not even noticeable outside the Italian alien subs for Star Wars, but it technically affected all 720p subtitles.
• Included instructions for how to correctly extract subtitle images from graphical subtitle files, since it’s actually easy to extract image files that look good at first glance, but have subtle software compatibility issues (i.e. extracting alien subtitles for use with a video editor).

Reconstructed alien and matching subtitles are both generated using the same scripts, which means they’ll produce almost identical results. There is a difference regarding borders on the letters, though (it’s always been there, I just haven’t mentioned it before). Different from the drop shadow, the border is thinner, fainter and completely surrounds the letter on all sides. It is usually completely invisible unless the text overlaps a bright background, and you only really see it in the alien subtitles when the second Greedo subtitle overlaps the lamp on the table, along the upper-left edges of the letters. On the English subtitles, this border is minimal and the edges of the letters are not very distinct. On the Italian Star Wars subtitles, there is no border at all (and no drop shadow either), so the letters simply disappear into the glow of the lamp (yes, really). Since matching subtitles must work against all types of backgrounds (consider Tantive IV, Hoth, etc), they have a border even when you’re trying to match the style of the Italian subtitles, and that border is even more distinct than the border on the English subtitles. So if, for example, you created matching Italian subtitles to go with the reconstructed Italian alien subtitles, Han’s lines would be readable in the parts that overlapped the lamp, and Greedo’s lines would not. In other words, matching subtitles don’t really match 100%, but that’s intentional. The inconsistency is because the ultimate goal of alien subtitles is theatrical fidelity, while the ultimate goal of matching subtitles is still readability.

Also, I’m looking for a new MySpleen seeding volunteer. My own Internet connection is tragically not remotely up to the task, and marvins doesn’t seem to be active anymore, at least at the moment.

Thanks for the update! a PM of your great project is always welcome. About seeding it in myspleen I’d like to help, but unfortunately my internet connection is not fast too.

By the way I detected that when tsmuxer is used to add or remove srt subtitles, the resulting video always skips the last paragrah of the subtitles. The solution is easy, the files just need a couple of blank keystrokes with “enter”, and tsmuxer will automatically include the last paragrah. (For instance if in ROTJ, the last line is “He’s my brother” and the file just ends after the “r”. Well, just press “enter” a couple of times, save the file, and voila tsmuxer will include “He’s my brother” in the video)

PM sent.

I know Hostmaster and I have already discussed this privately, but for the sake of the thread, I wanted to add that I recommend against using the SRT files from this project for subtitles at all, and especially in combination with tsmuxer which has some bugs like the one mentioned above. tsmuxer allows you to add BD-SUP files instead of SRT files, which is really the only way I recommend using the subtitles from this project (the process is described in the README). You can also use media players like MPC-HC, which allow you to add external BD-SUP files that are not muxed into the video stream.

Yeah, I know, getting people to stop using SRT files for subtitles is an uphill battle, but I’m trying.