John Doom said:
He wasn’t threatening him, but the plan sure was a threat to them both.
Technically having the tracking beacon not work was a threat to them all but you’re still rationalizing it with your own feelings though.
Just by Leia once,
while Kylo takes shit from Snoke, Poe and Hux.
Snoke is his Master. Did you see Vader talk back to Palpatine? The answer is no.
Poe cracked a joke. He said nothing even remotely close to an actual insult like Leia did to Vader. And shortly after he got his mind probed by Kylo.
Hux suggested that his personal agenda doesn’t interfere with Snoke’s and was promptly threatened with death should he not get BB-8.
Kylo really only takes shit from Snoke. Vader on the other hand takes shit from Leia and Tarkin.
Don’t make me post my list again and make an additional one about Vader in ANH, I’d rather not repeat myself on this. I agree we disagree, ok? 😄
Adywan already handled that for me. And any list you post doesn’t refute his actions against certain characters in the film regardless of his failures. And like I said both him and Vader both failed in the end.
Which made the viewers fear for his life when Maul later reappeared and Qui-gon was forced to fight one-on-one again against him. This is good.
It made Maul imposing sure but we all knew Obi-Wan would probably win the duel but I digress.
Whether he did it or not, Luke’s “mighty” master had died by Vader’s hand, and Luke would’ve not been able to complete his training to defeat Vader anymore. It worked.
Still doesn’t make Vader imposing. He killed an old man who literally gave his life a way. So scary.
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Dek Rollins said:
I didn’t compare the actions, I compared the characterization of Kylo killing Han to another point of characterization. Kylo wants desperately to be evil (for some reason), so he wants to prove to himself that he can be ‘so bad’, by killing his father. And as I said, I don’t think their relationship stretched that far in the first place (that’s just what I picked up from what we saw/heard in the film).
Well it came off like you were comparing the actions. And as it pertains to the analogy it’s still apples and oranges no matter how rocky their past relationship was.